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  • psaxena
    11-19 11:09 AM
    Are you the one who created the slogan, move ahead we are behind you... !! (and will always be behind without giving any support)

    Why don't you file the lawsuit, why do you look up to someone to do what you want??

    Just want get everything in the world without doing anything and that too FREE??

    Step up and do something rather than just pushing everyone around.
    There is a lot I can say about , but then the fine line of the difference between you and me will be no more. So I leave this conversation right here!! Hope this shakes up your conscious if you got one.



    Did you file the lawsuit yet?

    Someone please update on the lawsuit to enforce visa spill over





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  • eb3India
    07-01 10:26 PM
    Hi guys techmia just created his ID and he must be from other side of the aile who just want see us as failure, please ignore these post and keep faith, remeber always we are legal and we follow law, this land is suppose to be land of law and no one is above it. if there is in justicse IV should fight with out fear, our strength is in our integrity and faith that we did;nt anything wrong and we should not be afraid of anything





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  • cygent
    03-23 10:18 PM
    How do you know if labor is EB2 or EB3?

    Hello all,

    How do you determine if the category is EB2 or EB3? How can you find that out from which document?

    Thanks!





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  • mbawa2574
    02-16 12:06 PM
    You don't get it, do you? I've never talked about you. What I am saying is simply this: If you don't limit the number of immigrants from one country, you essentially become a part of that country with the influx of people coming from there. This is what people in America are afraid of. They can't limit the influx of illegal immigrants from Mexico and other latin america countries, and it is becoming a big deal for them, since they don't want to be forced to learn spanish next time they go to a diner.
    Is it racist? probably so. But remember, it is their country; They make the laws. They can make people dance for 5 minutes at ports of entry while they film it and post it to youtube if they like (see recent articles about search and seizures of returning greencard holders' electronic equipment).



    And who the hell are you to tell me this?


    What did I say? What I mentioned was the natural tendency of people of one language and one common background to gather together and stay together, even though the whole society asks them "Please forget your background and become one of us". How is that racist? This law stops the society to become divided into two factions of 'Us' vs. 'Irish' or 'Us' vs. 'Italians' or 'Us' vs. 'Iranians', etc. There have been several waves of people coming to US for whatever reasons; They are just making sure this doesn't happen again.

    This per country cap law is very much like the tax code. If you change it to favor one class of people, you end up screwing everyone else. The current immigration law favors me, so I am happy. It doesn't favor you, so you are (understandably) unhappy. Calling me racist and trying to chase me out of IV is not going to solve your problem.

    On one side you are praising the bigotry of 1940's and racism and on the other hand talking unity. I am sure you are are looser in your life and now Indians and Chinese are your targets since you don't know the meaning of competition. I am not going to waste my time as I am not even sure who planted you here. If you are really not a non-immigrant phony, please state your contribution to the IV efforts. Otherwise we don't need a racist punk like you. Now get off my back:mad:



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  • alex99
    10-30 08:51 AM
    Participate in EB3 Poll





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  • paskal
    07-03 03:51 PM
    I did not read in detail this debate ..but I can say that many qualified and experienced people will not agree for the above ..esp if they have kids who go to school. for e.g. ..for me to do the above is not possible at all.
    at the maximum, youngsters will do this once ..to get some American experience.
    just imagine what the kid has to go through for such cases ..do schooling here for 4 years ..do schooling in India (find a school )..then the kid has to learn several languages, new system etc etc ..then comeback here and start school..almost impossible
    and I think many sensible people will not do the above ..relocating to their own country or to go to a country (like canada) is much much better in these cases.



    nixstor,

    they have considerably raised the bar for EB1 A and EB1 b to discourage people applying, but I suspect that if you run a trend, EB1C is on the rise. I think you might be surprised about how often it does actually happen.
    I half expect EB1 to be retrogressed at some point. There is a big backlog of pending !40's in EB1- NSC is running over a year behind.

    albertpinto:
    it's a whole of 365 days. people do it, i have seen it happen. what makes you think a big multinational has to send you to india? you could go to a european office, your family could stay behind, you could be sent to an english speaking country, kids could be young enough...there are a million ways to deal with this inconveneience when the rewards are clear. even now, people in consulting travel all the time, they are hardly home, so what's the huge difference in being across the pond (you get to travel back, your family gets to travel there)? sure, not for everyone, but when possible, this loophole is very much in use.



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  • gc28262
    04-11 09:03 PM
    Thanks for your reply. I appreciate your question. Let me explain you in details.
    I am not sure about Mexican illegals but I can tell about Indian.

    Normally person come here illegally alone. Very few people are coming here with spouse. it is absolutely sure that their kids are at backhome with other family members. Many illegal people have used 245(i) and all have priority date before April 2001 as before 2001 they should have to file labor. Fraudulent practice was prevailed in the small business community. They used to file labor certificate in dummy name and once it approve, they are selling to others (labor substitution was legal at that time). Most of 245(i) cases have purchased labor with big $$$. All the 245(i) were approved from 2002 to now. Their case is counting in EB3 category. Once persons case is approved, he will file I 824 (Follow to join family members) for wife and/or kids who are waiting in India. Once I 824 approve, case is transferred to respective CP at back home. It is slow process and take any where from 1 year to 4 to 5 years in some cases. This cases are consuming EB3 quota. We don't know how many cases are in pipeline. But I know few people whose GC was approved under 245(i) and their kids are waiting at Back home. This is the reason why EB3 India is struck around 2001 for many years. If still lot of 245(i) derivative cases are in pipeline, it can retrogress back to April 2001.

    I am highlighting truth so that we should not make any mistake in next CIR (same channel and resources for EB legals and 13 millions illegal). if history repeat for CIR, it may not hurt all legal EB community who are reading this post today but future generation EB legal have big blow.

    My dear friend Ron Hira is calling me racist !! I always laughing for his immaturity (In fact, I ignore his post). Insisting for following rule is racist. Opposing people who kept EB legal provisions hostages since 2005 is racist??? people in this forum are much smart who is talking what !!!

    I remember Mahatma Ganghi's quotes:

    " I can wait 100 years for freedom but don't want it through violent route"
    khodalmd,

    Thanks for the clarification. I think you are right in terms of "follow to join" 245(i) cases. EB3-I may not be out of 245(i) bump yet.

    Here is a USCIS memo regarding 245(i)

    http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/245i.pdf

    Relevant portion:

    "Many aliens with pending, grandfathered petitions or labor certification applications will marry or have children after the qualifying petition or application was filed but before adjustment of status. These "after-acquired" children and spouses are allowed to adjust under 245(i) as long as they acquire the status of a spouse or child before the principal alien ultimately adjusts status."

    On another note, wouldn't the spouses/children of 245(i) applicants be eligible for "follow to join" applications when the primary applicant's application is still pending ? Why would they wait till the approval of primary's AOS application ?





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  • Openarms
    03-09 04:36 PM
    1) Massive campaigns won't do the job in fact they will do more harm then results particularly in this environments (learn from Hispanic community protests before CIR)

    2) Mr. Change alone don't have to do something about it? he can direct his DHS and CIS people to do their jobs.. just because economy of economy is bad that does not mean people stop eating food.

    3) We and institutions like IV needs to come up with agenda to lift this country quota ban (at least to eliminate this huge backlog)

    4) IV says they have agenda but nobody knows their laundry list agenda.

    5) We need to work for lifting this country quota ... this is the only way that things can become REASONABLE.



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  • vagish
    04-04 11:21 AM
    I don't think this bill would be of any consequence to the goal of IV unless they can maybe attach some GC-relief provisions to it.

    In reality this bill will never ever make it to the full Senate floor. Corporate America will ensure that it dies the same kind of death as all the immigration related bills from last year.

    I think it is true coporate america will not allow it to go through, but it is also true that any bill faverable to the H1B and or GC will also have the same death
    as this one , do not underestimate the anti - immigration and unions clout
    on democrats, if corporate america wants H1B increase it will come at a price,
    more no free rides for corporate america as well.

    that is the reason why we see stalemate for any kind of immigration bill, neither side is able to push anything.

    thanks





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  • map_boiler
    07-18 08:43 AM
    Our packet was delivered to NSC on July 2nd at 7:55 am...



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  • Refugee_New
    12-20 05:23 PM
    Folks, I didn't worked for an year(2001) due to, you know what I am saying....

    Now I am afraid that I would get an RFE because of that. Do you think that I need to worry about it? :(

    Hey, are you from Andhra pradesh?





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  • delax
    07-20 02:28 PM
    delax,

    There is a mistake in your numbers, thousands of cases applied for in 2005 were approved in 2006.
    If you look at the 2006 PERM Data Sheet, there are 7290 Approved, India cases with receipt dates in the year 2005.
    I'm assuming PD = PERM Receipt Date (correct me if i'm wrong)
    Similarly for 2006 in the 2007 tables.

    Therefore there are ~ 8700 - EB1, EB2, EB3 cases in 2005 and not 1350.

    The data is organized by Govt Fiscal Year (Oct thru Sept) and by priority date not approval date. Thus anyone applying in Oct-Dec of 2005 will show up in the 2006 file.
    You will notice that the PERM receipt date is always between Oct of previous year and Sept of next year. I also think that the pre-PERM data is a little suspect. I am the only GC applicant from my company and my PD is July 2004, but my case does not show up in the 2004 file. I guess during the transfer from DOL to BEC's my case got lost in translation though I got an approval in Feb 2007.



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  • pappu
    01-31 02:32 PM
    This was a great effort by a few members and we were able to see a rise in membership and will see better search engine rankings due to this effort. Each and every small effort is important for our success and such efforts will not go unnoticed. Thank you to everyone especially the ones that were driving this thread.
    We need more members to drive this further and get IV's message to more people.

    Anyone willing?





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  • Suva
    03-12 10:26 AM
    I support this.

    To all those who are screaming and shouting about "IV collecting Donations and doing nothing", I am not a donor myself, but we have to understand that IV IS THE ONLY platform we (EB community) have. However shaky or small the platform is. It takes a different kind of person to doggedly keep at something as insipid and difficult and immigration relief for EB and to put up with all the brickbats that armchair immigration proponents and to be beneficiaries like us throw at the IV core.

    Pappu, I have put forth this idea many times, and will do so again, let IV be a members only forum, with a REASONABLE annual subscrition amount (say equal to themonthly cost of a decent cable/satellite subscription:-)..

    This will achieve the following:
    (1) Assured, stable fund collection for IV activities
    (2) Only genuine IV supporters will sign up.
    (3) To some extent, may be, will keep antis away (this is not assured, but may happen)

    ...Its Friday, so pickup a 6-pack, 12 pack or whatever pack on your way home, and relax...



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  • RNGC
    09-19 03:48 PM
    I checked LIV.org, this domain name is available for sale....we need to see if we can get this.....





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  • chanduv23
    09-11 04:28 PM
    Yes - lot of people are making last minute plans - GO IV GO



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  • sammas
    07-12 05:16 PM
    Where does it say in the bulletin that it will move in the next bulletin?

    QUOTE=sammas;1968386]Sorry to say this but 1st March is not considered. Hopefully your PD will be current in next Sep 2010 bulletin. Good Luck![/QUOTE]
    Calgirl,

    If you look at my post, I mentioned the word "HOPEFULLY" and also I did not say that it is mentioned in the current bulletin. I was just trying to be OPTIMISTIC.





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  • shiva7
    02-14 12:56 PM
    Dear Administrator,
    Thank you so much for giving me an opportunity to pay through paypal. I am proud of me for contributing $100.00 today.
    I suggest that please keep an activated Paypal logo on our website so our comrades can understand that we could pay through paypal.
    I read on our site that we could pay through paypal but didn't know how.
    I am not so smart to learn that visa/mastercard/check logo will take me to paypal acoount login page. And so I didn't pay for a long time.
    Thank you anyway. Let's continue to struggle.





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  • gsc999
    07-01 10:45 PM
    When prominent business houses like Microsoft, Google, Cisco, Oracle and organizations like AILA seem powerless when it comes to influencing senators, lawmakers and government organizations like USCIS and DOS, what can IV team do to change the policies. Sorry I did not mean to criticize, but that's the truth, unfortunately!
    --
    Mandeep:

    Welcome to IV. Yes, the odds are overwhelming but not impossible. A small glimmer of hope is enough to bring thousands of like minded people stuck in retrogression and backlog to IV. I use to share your skepticism. Not anymore, IV has achieved a lot. I won't go down the list but lot more needs to be done, for that we need more members, to become more influential and effective.

    Hope to see you become more active here.





    jambapamba
    07-13 07:56 AM
    Yes, please correct the spelling....
    Please correct your spelling of Murthy. I thought some senator or Congressman Murphy wrote to DOS. If it was murthy I wouldn't have bothered to come on this thread. She is a big time crook. Shamelessly she's trying to take credit of everything that we are doing here under 1 banner called immigrationvoice she will take credit of Zoe Lofgren and everybody else. She has never ever mentioned immigrationvoice for anything in her so called updates.





    chanduv23
    02-17 09:41 AM
    one of the reason I would like Core Team to consider sending email about the Advocacy Day.... that email will get more inactive member like Chandu who got greened and has no good reason (nothing wrong abt it...most of us do the same) to continue visiting IV. Please consider sending one email on Feb and March.

    If someone gets out because of this email I am sure he/she is not going to work on any IV activities even if IV never sent any email. Those members join IV just for some free advice and nothing else.

    Pappu & StarRun consider this request and let us know where we stand on this. I had collected some content from this forum for flyers ( decided not to pursue further after discussion and advice from StarRun).

    On side note, I agree with Chandu regarding convincing our spouse on these kind of expense and participation is really tough a job. We have bought up by teaching/preaching any activities other than studying (for grownups working) is not worth it.

    A well drafted newsletter - on a continual basis will keep members well informed. A lot of people visit this website only for information, timepass and to rant. Some do serious stuff but most just pass time here.

    Newsletters - will help reach out to wider public. The desi groceries, movie distributors, restaurants send emails and coupons, toysrus, best buy , etc... send emails, coupons, so many organizations do it and I think IV must do it to.



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