vamsi_poondla
10-10 05:07 PM
You may admire them as much as you want but fact is these are just "glorified" bodyshoppers. I meet many workers from these "great" companies at my workplace and see them being treated just as "low cost alternatives" and nothing else by this huge financial company in NY/NJ area. Because of their (INFY, TATA, Wipro, Satyam) "low billing rates" these guys cant afford good lifestyle. And back home in India INFY and TATA CEOs make billions and talk BIG. I've not met any TATA, Satyam guy here who is happy with their employer. They just hate their employers and always looking for a change. I wonder where they stand in terms of employee satisfaction? They treat their people like slave and send them as low cost labor. Not only that - they exploit US immigration rules and make use of L1 to keep their people long term at cliant place when they dont get enough H1.
No difference from local bodyshoppers! Dont think they are great companies. You may say "you folks are frustrated with these companies". But this is the fact. Period.
I think this thread is hijacked. I will also join the band :p I work for one of these companies (SWITCH - Satyam, Wipro, Infosys, Tata, Cognizant, HCL) and came on L1, became H1B and on the path of GC through the same company. Some of what you have said is correct that the employers are not paid same as what IBM US employers get (and of course what some consultants get). Some of the issues are working off-late hours and coordination effort etc.
The positive side of these companies is
1) Career advancement - One can really grow into lead and managerial positions if they have the aptitude
2) Technical Career Paths are there for those who are technically inclined.
3) Benefits - There are good benefits which usually may not be there for those working for desi-consultants
4) Support from a large pool of knowledge - If I face any issue, I post it in my company help forum, there will be many responses,some real good ones within a day.
5) More job security - companies are not yet used to down-sizing. In hard times, there could be some salary rationalization (which I think is OK - better than losing job) and increased utilization (again doesn't mean more work from individual it means optimal bench strength)
6) Growth - While it is debatable whether it can sustain the rupee strengthening or not, unless the company 's strategy is very narrow, nobody outsource for the cost alone...Many are simply build-or-buy decisions, and based on core-competency and risk management. Deals that are struck these days are multi-year, multi-million dollar ones which will provide guaranteed business over a long periods.
Coming to those who come on L1 or H1, most of them want to get an opportunity to work at client location to better their perspective (apart from Dollar conversion). Nobody comes here by force. Their priorities are always different than most of the forum readers' Their choices are also limited. Some leave as soon as they come here (I personally interviewed at least 10 folks last year who floated their resumes as soon as they landed here), some want to go back after working here few years, some switch to H1Bs through desi-consultants, thus enter rat race, some try to grow here in their company on long term basis.
Hope this clarifies few who pity SWITCH employees..
Again these are not "glorified" bodyshoppers. It is a very wrong impression. I am a manager at one of such companies. We have highest regards for our personnel, we strive hard to make a big difference, we compete with other service companies like Accenture, IBM and EDS, have high client focus and we feel proud about it. Never in ANY meetings or strategies we keep our employers' interest below anything.
No difference from local bodyshoppers! Dont think they are great companies. You may say "you folks are frustrated with these companies". But this is the fact. Period.
I think this thread is hijacked. I will also join the band :p I work for one of these companies (SWITCH - Satyam, Wipro, Infosys, Tata, Cognizant, HCL) and came on L1, became H1B and on the path of GC through the same company. Some of what you have said is correct that the employers are not paid same as what IBM US employers get (and of course what some consultants get). Some of the issues are working off-late hours and coordination effort etc.
The positive side of these companies is
1) Career advancement - One can really grow into lead and managerial positions if they have the aptitude
2) Technical Career Paths are there for those who are technically inclined.
3) Benefits - There are good benefits which usually may not be there for those working for desi-consultants
4) Support from a large pool of knowledge - If I face any issue, I post it in my company help forum, there will be many responses,some real good ones within a day.
5) More job security - companies are not yet used to down-sizing. In hard times, there could be some salary rationalization (which I think is OK - better than losing job) and increased utilization (again doesn't mean more work from individual it means optimal bench strength)
6) Growth - While it is debatable whether it can sustain the rupee strengthening or not, unless the company 's strategy is very narrow, nobody outsource for the cost alone...Many are simply build-or-buy decisions, and based on core-competency and risk management. Deals that are struck these days are multi-year, multi-million dollar ones which will provide guaranteed business over a long periods.
Coming to those who come on L1 or H1, most of them want to get an opportunity to work at client location to better their perspective (apart from Dollar conversion). Nobody comes here by force. Their priorities are always different than most of the forum readers' Their choices are also limited. Some leave as soon as they come here (I personally interviewed at least 10 folks last year who floated their resumes as soon as they landed here), some want to go back after working here few years, some switch to H1Bs through desi-consultants, thus enter rat race, some try to grow here in their company on long term basis.
Hope this clarifies few who pity SWITCH employees..
Again these are not "glorified" bodyshoppers. It is a very wrong impression. I am a manager at one of such companies. We have highest regards for our personnel, we strive hard to make a big difference, we compete with other service companies like Accenture, IBM and EDS, have high client focus and we feel proud about it. Never in ANY meetings or strategies we keep our employers' interest below anything.
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softcrowd
08-05 09:48 PM
Eb2 - India PD: April 2004
485 RD: 08/02/2007
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desi3933
07-19 04:55 PM
Yes, don't worry guys. Once I-140 is approved, most of employment and job related stuff is over.
I-485 is mainly for status change stage to check criminal background (not job related :) ), FP and name check. They won't check much on job.
It is all straight forward and only a time consuming stage. Thats all. Enjoy the AOS pending stage.
Incorrect.
Consider this example. It is possible that I-140 is approved in Dec 2005 and I-485 is filed in July 2007. There can be big time lag between I-140 and I-485.
I-140 is mainly matching job requirement to employee' skill set and experience and ability to pay for the employer. It does NOT check for out of status issues. I hope you know that person may not be US for I-140 to be approved.
I-485 is, like it says, adjustment of status and it checks for status issue. Please refer to section 245 in detail. Section 245(k), for example, applies to I-485 (and not to I-140).
Please confirm with your lawyer and get your info right.
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Not a legal advice.
I-485 is mainly for status change stage to check criminal background (not job related :) ), FP and name check. They won't check much on job.
It is all straight forward and only a time consuming stage. Thats all. Enjoy the AOS pending stage.
Incorrect.
Consider this example. It is possible that I-140 is approved in Dec 2005 and I-485 is filed in July 2007. There can be big time lag between I-140 and I-485.
I-140 is mainly matching job requirement to employee' skill set and experience and ability to pay for the employer. It does NOT check for out of status issues. I hope you know that person may not be US for I-140 to be approved.
I-485 is, like it says, adjustment of status and it checks for status issue. Please refer to section 245 in detail. Section 245(k), for example, applies to I-485 (and not to I-140).
Please confirm with your lawyer and get your info right.
______________________
Not a legal advice.
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admin
02-21 01:47 PM
Great point arihant. What all of us have to remember is that even if we don't have voting powers, if we can prove that it is in the interest to USA to change these antiquated laws, the lawmakers will act. That is precisely what we are doing currently with the help of QGA.
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gcisadawg
02-28 10:06 AM
"A. USCIS is currently aware of approximately 47,000 applications for permanent residence (I-485) cases that are otherwise approvable but for the fact that an FBI name check is pending. In a subset of these case, the FBI name check request that been pending for more than 180 days. USCIS anticipates that the majority of the cases that are subject to this policy modification will be processed by mid-March 2008."
It says otherwise approvable but for name check. Does that mean Visa numbers are already allotted for these 47K cases hence they wont eat up the visa numbers?
It says otherwise approvable but for name check. Does that mean Visa numbers are already allotted for these 47K cases hence they wont eat up the visa numbers?
PlainSpeak
01-13 04:46 PM
thats ok, no need of apologies. all i am asking you is to keep it to the point that you opened this thread for and discuss the options. We do not need to go into who is the guru here with so many number of postings etc..its totally irrelevant to this thread. again, when you open a thread with questions, please be prepared not to accept atleast expect different forms of opinions from different people. u have a nice evening too.
Ok what i have heard after calling Lufthansa is because of the new Schezewan (I knmow i spelled it worng) visa changes AP is no longer considered a valid visa document by Germany. It used to before but no longer and of course France, England and other countres never did. So coming back to Germany yes while travelling to and fro you need a transit visa (Direction does not make any difference because as far as Germany is concerned you are from India and you have no Valid visa to America and/or any european country so you are suspect of trying to illegally enter Germany and to avioid it you need to buy transit visa).
I myself was plannig for a trip and was trying for travle via Doha and Qatar where no transit visa is required. (Us to gluf direct flight. Gulf to any city in india) but the rates were high. If you like you can look at that opiton too. beats the hell out of going to teh german embassy and getting a transit visa. But if that is your preference go with it
All the best
Ok what i have heard after calling Lufthansa is because of the new Schezewan (I knmow i spelled it worng) visa changes AP is no longer considered a valid visa document by Germany. It used to before but no longer and of course France, England and other countres never did. So coming back to Germany yes while travelling to and fro you need a transit visa (Direction does not make any difference because as far as Germany is concerned you are from India and you have no Valid visa to America and/or any european country so you are suspect of trying to illegally enter Germany and to avioid it you need to buy transit visa).
I myself was plannig for a trip and was trying for travle via Doha and Qatar where no transit visa is required. (Us to gluf direct flight. Gulf to any city in india) but the rates were high. If you like you can look at that opiton too. beats the hell out of going to teh german embassy and getting a transit visa. But if that is your preference go with it
All the best
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04-10 03:27 PM
I know there are some of good <desi> consulting companies..
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gcformeornot
08-09 08:13 PM
I don't care about LS. Almost all cases I know are fraud. Sometimes 2 guys got GCs on same labor(since they were not asking Original LC). Thank god USCIS banned LS.
God Bless USCIS for banning LS.
God Bless USCIS for banning LS.
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qplearn
12-12 01:02 PM
im waiting for the groans and moans
aren't you one of those who should be groaning too? Or are you one of those who already have the GC and don't need to groan?
There is nothing to be shocked at if a large number of people groan at this. Can't believe your insensitivity. :(
aren't you one of those who should be groaning too? Or are you one of those who already have the GC and don't need to groan?
There is nothing to be shocked at if a large number of people groan at this. Can't believe your insensitivity. :(
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snathan
06-18 07:19 PM
Can we have a letter / online fax campaign atleast...
May be a letter from Rep Longfren etc.
Yes...we are. I will let you know once we are ready.
Thanks.
May be a letter from Rep Longfren etc.
Yes...we are. I will let you know once we are ready.
Thanks.
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bindas74
10-25 10:09 AM
You deserve a gc right away after such a long and painful wait. Dont lose hopes.
Hi eb3retro,
I see that your PD is Jan 2003. Mine is Mar 03. I thought I would ask you about your opininons.
So, do you think we will get our GC in 2009?
Do you think it would be better to move to EB2?
Thanks for your inputs.
Hi eb3retro,
I see that your PD is Jan 2003. Mine is Mar 03. I thought I would ask you about your opininons.
So, do you think we will get our GC in 2009?
Do you think it would be better to move to EB2?
Thanks for your inputs.
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lazycis
02-11 04:17 PM
It looks like NC was completed. "Requirement review" means that they are trying to determine whether your marriage is still valid after all these years... Do not take it close to your heart, I found out that the USCIS letters are not very credible.
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doggy
07-21 07:19 PM
Hi,
If you check the bright future jobs website, you will not find any reference to such a "Call".
Beware, calling the number might expose your phone number, and you might become a victim.
Please be aware law enforcement has been notified, if anyone encounters any problems as a result, please contact law enforcement.
I hope the deranged person who originally posted the message can receive help soon.
BTW, if "Antis" is your calling card (it's rarely used in reference to those participating in the immigration debate) you might have exposed yourself a little too much.
:-). Good try. Well, anybody can hide their number using the *67 !!
Ask Donna. It went on her Bright Future Jobs email list, not on the site. It's supposed to be a secret call of the Antis.
I have been fighting the Anti-immigrant propaganda for a long time, okay? Just because I created a new nym to hide my actual identity doesn't mean what I post is untrue.
Of course, unless you are trying to divert people. :-). You took all the trouble of creating a new ID to denounce this? Surprising.
By the way, folks. The number is not a private number. I did a google search on the number, and looks like it's used by a lot of people for hosting conference calls. Probably some kind of service.
http://www.google.com/search?q=(219)+509-8111
See you there.
If you check the bright future jobs website, you will not find any reference to such a "Call".
Beware, calling the number might expose your phone number, and you might become a victim.
Please be aware law enforcement has been notified, if anyone encounters any problems as a result, please contact law enforcement.
I hope the deranged person who originally posted the message can receive help soon.
BTW, if "Antis" is your calling card (it's rarely used in reference to those participating in the immigration debate) you might have exposed yourself a little too much.
:-). Good try. Well, anybody can hide their number using the *67 !!
Ask Donna. It went on her Bright Future Jobs email list, not on the site. It's supposed to be a secret call of the Antis.
I have been fighting the Anti-immigrant propaganda for a long time, okay? Just because I created a new nym to hide my actual identity doesn't mean what I post is untrue.
Of course, unless you are trying to divert people. :-). You took all the trouble of creating a new ID to denounce this? Surprising.
By the way, folks. The number is not a private number. I did a google search on the number, and looks like it's used by a lot of people for hosting conference calls. Probably some kind of service.
http://www.google.com/search?q=(219)+509-8111
See you there.
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MLS
06-26 04:43 PM
Any more information on how you contacted your senator (via email / phone call ) will help too.
Thank you very much !!
I had asked my StateSenator to inquire about my case and the senator office got back in 2 weeks saying that the USCIS liaiason informed that all looks good on my case and that cards should be ordered within 30 days. Six days after that i.e. today I got a notice saying cards were ordered.
Thank you very much !!
I had asked my StateSenator to inquire about my case and the senator office got back in 2 weeks saying that the USCIS liaiason informed that all looks good on my case and that cards should be ordered within 30 days. Six days after that i.e. today I got a notice saying cards were ordered.
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nolud
02-11 10:02 PM
Thanks Lazy
If these these letters aren't that credible, then it's also possible that the application may still be stuck in namecheck.
It's so sad to see how they really operate and they have to stoop to such low standards of ethics.
If I had a job where I needed to blow smoke to cover up for my de�fi�cien�cies, I'd be pounding the pavement the next day.
If these these letters aren't that credible, then it's also possible that the application may still be stuck in namecheck.
It's so sad to see how they really operate and they have to stoop to such low standards of ethics.
If I had a job where I needed to blow smoke to cover up for my de�fi�cien�cies, I'd be pounding the pavement the next day.
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04-19 03:44 PM
I will be sending the following note to my senator and have already posted it to WhiteHouse.gov. I urge all those screwed by the ongoing retrogression to do the same.
"I am writing to inform you of how the country based quotas imposed on Employment Based green cards are unfair and totally illogical. When I immigrated to the US, I believed that this country was a meritocracy where you were judged based on your abilities and qualities. These country based quotas reward people depending on where they or their ancestors were born. This causes people from India and China to wait over a decade to get a green card whereas someone from another country with similar or lesser abilities can obtain permanent residence in half that time.
Since these EB category based green cards are awarded for professional skills, imposing a country based quota just does not make any sense. I urge you to work with Congress and change this discriminatory policy and reinforce that America is truly a society that celebrates meritocracy."
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"I am writing to inform you of how the country based quotas imposed on Employment Based green cards are unfair and totally illogical. When I immigrated to the US, I believed that this country was a meritocracy where you were judged based on your abilities and qualities. These country based quotas reward people depending on where they or their ancestors were born. This causes people from India and China to wait over a decade to get a green card whereas someone from another country with similar or lesser abilities can obtain permanent residence in half that time.
Since these EB category based green cards are awarded for professional skills, imposing a country based quota just does not make any sense. I urge you to work with Congress and change this discriminatory policy and reinforce that America is truly a society that celebrates meritocracy."
welcome to IV and thanks for your post. Please join our collective efforts starting with sending your lawyer an email to contact IV if they are interested for their banner display. Additionally you could consider contributing to IV, thus becoming a donor and get more updates as well and participate in our attempt to address burning issues we have that affect almost all immigrants like you and me.
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01-25 09:42 AM
LINK (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/services/travel/visa-power/immigration-fraud-hundreds-of-indian-students-may-be-deported-from-us/articleshow/7359653.cms)
WASHINGTON: Hundreds of Indian students , mostly from Andhra Pradesh , face the prospect of deportation from the US after authorities raided and shut down a university in the Silicon Valley on charges of a massive immigration fraud .
The Tri-Valley University in Pleasanton, a major suburb in San Francisco Bay Area, has been charged by federal investigating authorities with being part of an effort to defraud, misuse visa permits and indulge in money laundering and other crimes.
According to a federal complaint filed in a California court, the University, which was raided and shut down last week, helped foreign nationals illegally acquire immigration status.
The university is said to have 1,555 students. As many as 95 per cent of these students are Indian nationals, the complaint said.
Investigations by Immigration and Custom Enforcement (ICE) found that while students were admitted to various residential and online courses of the university and on paper lived in California, in reality they "illegally" worked in various parts of the country as far as Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Texas.
ICE has called it as a "sham university." The ICE investigations found that more than half of these students were reported to be residing in a single apartment located in Sunnyvale California.
During the course of the investigation ICE found that the university gave the residential address of its students in order to conceal that they did not live in California, said the court papers.
For a student to maintain an active immigration status, they must show proof that they are making reasonable process towards completing coursework and physically attend classes.
Federal investigating authorities are now sweeping out on each of those students, who paid lakhs for obtaining students visa and also students work permit.
Several of them have been interrogated, creating a panic reaction among the Indian student community.
Many of the students from Andhra Pradesh, who were planning to join the university for the new semester, have cancelled their US travel plans.
Classes were scheduled to start on January 10 after the winter break.
It is understood that many of these students are planning to leave the country as soon as possible as they are being interrogated.
There are unconfirmed reports of some of the students being detained and deportation process has been started against them.
Once the university has been shut down, the students who come on F-1 visa, lose their status within a stipulated time. These students have been making desperate calls to Indian- American immigration attorneys.
"We have received verification that ICE has detained some of the students and placed them in removal proceedings," Murthy Law Firm, a popular immigration attorney firm among Indian-Americans, said in a posting on its website.
On January 20, 2011 the Murthy Law Firm received numerous phone calls from students registered at Tri-Valley University in Pleasanton, California, it said in its posting.
WASHINGTON: Hundreds of Indian students , mostly from Andhra Pradesh , face the prospect of deportation from the US after authorities raided and shut down a university in the Silicon Valley on charges of a massive immigration fraud .
The Tri-Valley University in Pleasanton, a major suburb in San Francisco Bay Area, has been charged by federal investigating authorities with being part of an effort to defraud, misuse visa permits and indulge in money laundering and other crimes.
According to a federal complaint filed in a California court, the University, which was raided and shut down last week, helped foreign nationals illegally acquire immigration status.
The university is said to have 1,555 students. As many as 95 per cent of these students are Indian nationals, the complaint said.
Investigations by Immigration and Custom Enforcement (ICE) found that while students were admitted to various residential and online courses of the university and on paper lived in California, in reality they "illegally" worked in various parts of the country as far as Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Texas.
ICE has called it as a "sham university." The ICE investigations found that more than half of these students were reported to be residing in a single apartment located in Sunnyvale California.
During the course of the investigation ICE found that the university gave the residential address of its students in order to conceal that they did not live in California, said the court papers.
For a student to maintain an active immigration status, they must show proof that they are making reasonable process towards completing coursework and physically attend classes.
Federal investigating authorities are now sweeping out on each of those students, who paid lakhs for obtaining students visa and also students work permit.
Several of them have been interrogated, creating a panic reaction among the Indian student community.
Many of the students from Andhra Pradesh, who were planning to join the university for the new semester, have cancelled their US travel plans.
Classes were scheduled to start on January 10 after the winter break.
It is understood that many of these students are planning to leave the country as soon as possible as they are being interrogated.
There are unconfirmed reports of some of the students being detained and deportation process has been started against them.
Once the university has been shut down, the students who come on F-1 visa, lose their status within a stipulated time. These students have been making desperate calls to Indian- American immigration attorneys.
"We have received verification that ICE has detained some of the students and placed them in removal proceedings," Murthy Law Firm, a popular immigration attorney firm among Indian-Americans, said in a posting on its website.
On January 20, 2011 the Murthy Law Firm received numerous phone calls from students registered at Tri-Valley University in Pleasanton, California, it said in its posting.
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gottagc
05-29 05:43 PM
Looks like we are all frustrated, and it is proving beyond doubts.:(
It is best to wait for USCIS to announce this. If this is going to be true, then lots of people who had the hopes of applying for their I140 is just gone.
IV core team, can you please find out more information on this and let the members know.
:eek:
It is best to wait for USCIS to announce this. If this is going to be true, then lots of people who had the hopes of applying for their I140 is just gone.
IV core team, can you please find out more information on this and let the members know.
:eek:
aachoo
02-13 10:08 PM
Not related to this thread but I did not want to open a new thread for this question..
As you can see I am EB2-I (info above) and am waiting in line for my turn but I am just wondering if L1 route to GC is quicker? If so then how?
Not that I am trying to do it because I can not :) but I know someone who just got his GC via L1 in matter of months and here we all EB guys are waiting..
Thanks.
I know people (Indian) who have applied for EB1 after being in L1 for a couple of years and got the GC in 6 months. There is a category for International Manager (or something similar) that qualifies them for EB1.
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As you can see I am EB2-I (info above) and am waiting in line for my turn but I am just wondering if L1 route to GC is quicker? If so then how?
Not that I am trying to do it because I can not :) but I know someone who just got his GC via L1 in matter of months and here we all EB guys are waiting..
Thanks.
I know people (Indian) who have applied for EB1 after being in L1 for a couple of years and got the GC in 6 months. There is a category for International Manager (or something similar) that qualifies them for EB1.
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Pagal
04-21 08:42 PM
I wanted to send message also.Do you recommend giving original deatils on the form when sending message to white house and senators.
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