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  • Googler
    02-13 01:01 PM
    The problem here not every country gets equal or equitable piece of pie. The probelm is Part of the pie gets thrown out and not given to people in the line because too many of them happen to be from one country.

    How about facts? In 2006, Philippines received 23,733 EB visas, India - 17,169. No other country received more. China received 9,484.

    http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/yearbook/2006/table10d.xls

    One thing to note in this dicussion is that this reallocation to oversubscribed countries is far from seamless. If cutoff dates for oversubscribed countries are not moved up in the 3rd quarter (as opposed to the fourth quarter of the fiscal year), part of the pie DOES get thrown out, as it has in recent years 2003 (88.4K), 2004 (47,3K), 2006 (10.2k) [see 2007 Ombudsmans Report, p. 34 which gives the data for these years and going back to 1992]. This is absolutely infuriating since 2003-2004 these were also the years that largely created the present backlog of applicants with early PDs. How on earth can you justify throwing out 10.2K greencards in 2006 (FY 2007) EVEN AFTER the June 2007 greencard free for all??





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  • tikka
    07-03 10:22 PM
    Hi Guys,

    Can you please post Media Links on this issue .. (CNN, ... etc) Thanks


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    http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Worl...08500-sun.html


    http://www.kswo.com/Global/story.asp?S=6740337


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  • dallasdude
    05-29 01:35 PM
    For all those who are stating that filing in EB1 should not matter, please withdraw your application and let other people in line move ahead. Give me 1 simple reason, why should we not raise this issue. In hindi, there s an old saying "boondh boond karge ghara bartha hain"....

    I will request all of you to send letters to USCIS to raise this issue and lets have a close scrutiny of all EB1 applicants received/filed....I understand that this is not the solution but i am pi***** at people using loopholes all the time.....

    Don't those knuckle heads infiltrate other countries in the world too? This is ridiculous. What a frickin mess we got here!





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  • sankap
    07-13 11:18 AM
    Here's an article that appeared in Outlook (India) magazine 8 years ago. Apparently, the situation hasn't changed much since then:

    http://outlookindia.com/full.asp?fname=international1&fodname=19990125&sid=1

    Canada...The Grass Isn't Greener
    Outlook: Jan 25, 1999

    It's a dream gone sour. Thousands of Indian immigrants who land up in Canada are, more often than not, greeted with unemployment, racism, culture shocks...

    SOHAILA CHARNALIA

    "I didn't come here to be a chowkidar. I came here believing it to be a land of opportunity; a country that has never known the nepotism, the corruption, the shortages of India. I find I have only substituted one country for another... certainly not one set of values for another, as I hoped. " For Dr Gurdial Singh Dhillon, who was made to believe his qualifications would land him a good job fast, Canada was a real disappointment. When he did find work, it was that of a security guard. This, when the United Nations has declared Canada the best country to live in.

    Some 200,000 people migrate to Canada every year, a majority from Asia. Hong Kong heads the list, followed by India, China, Taiwan and the Philippines. According to the Citizenship & Immigration Canada report, 21,249 Indians migrated to Canada in 1996 alone. (The high commission in Delhi, however, put the figure at 17,682). For many of them, especially those who are qualified professionals, dreams die fast. The life they face is never quite as rosy as made out by money-raking immigration lawyers.

    Is the UN report the only reason for the increase in Indian applications for immigration? That, and the fact that it is easier to get entry into Canada than any other western country, says a Delhi-based immigration lawyer. Also, the fastest way of getting immigration to the US is through Canada.

    Dhillon's disappointment is echoed by others. "I should have done my own homework before I applied", rues Aparna Shirodhkar, an architect from Mumbai, working as a saleswoman in a department store. "My husband is unemployed. I am the sole earner for a family of four. Sometimes I feel like running back". For Raheela Wasim, who's gone from being a schoolteacher in India to a telemarketer here, the experience was very discouraging, very disheartening. "I started losing confidence in myself. I felt I was not capable of the job market here".

    Jobs are the sore point with Indian immigrants. The irony is, they are often more qualified than their Canadian peers, yet they end up with either no work, or with entry-level jobs that have no future. "I was not told that you require a Canadian degree to get a job here", says Paramjeet Parmar, a postgraduate in biochemistry from Bombay University. Parmar works as a telemarketer, which has turned her from an elite professional to an unskilled, daily wage labourer. Ditto Opinder Khosla, a mechanical engineer from India, who has ended up as a salesman. "I found it difficult to even get an interview call", he says. The Canadian authorities are non-committal about the social and economic devaluation that the country imposes on immigrants.

    "You can't come thinking you can just walk in and get a job in your profession", says Isabel Basset, minister of citizenship, culture and recreation, responsible for handling immigrants' woes in Canada's largest province, Ontario. But she admits that the licensing bodies regulating the professions need to be more accepting of people trained elsewhere.

    That effort could only come from the government, argues Demetrius Oriopolis, co-author of Access, a government-commissioned report on assessing qualifications of newcomers, a 10-year-old report whose recommendations have still to be implemented. The report suggests certain rules of equivalence should be made binding on the regulatory bodies, which are exclusionist by nature.

    But Basset won't even hear of making the regulatory bodies accountable: "We believe in private enterprise with a minimum of government checks. Besides, she argues, the exercise would cost millions of dollars".

    Needless to say, the organisations are gleeful. Only professional bodies have the ability to determine what constitutes competence in a particular profession, was the cold response of the spokesperson for the Canadian Institute of Chartered Accountants, an institution that's responsible for the unemployment as well as under-employment of hundreds of qualified chartered accountants from India. They do not grant licences for professional practice, because Indian qualifications are not acceptable.

    "What kind of society are we creating? Is it a new form of slavery?" asks an irate Bhausaheb Ubale, Canada's former human rights commissioner. Qualified immigrants work as drivers, guards. If this isn't job discrimination, what is? Dr Ubale lobbied intensely before Indians were accepted in the media. They now hold jobs as reporters and anchors, he says, but a lot more has to be done.

    While skilled men may not be able to find jobs, their less qualified wives find it easier because they accept whatever comes their way. In several cases, the wives earn and support their husbands who are busy upgrading themselves, by studying for a Canadian degree. The working wife sometimes slogs away at three jobs. Sumitra starts at 7 am at her first job, teaching immigrants English; her second job as telemarketer starts at 4 pm. She gets back home around 8 pm, after which she begins selling cosmetics and household goods door to door. Till midnight. Sumitra supports three students, her husband and two school-going children.

    The other problems Indians face here are the high taxes, high mortgage payments for new homes and the sort of hidebound laws that the benign anarchy back home hardly prepares them for. "You can't run a red light, you can't escape from a hit-and-run site even if you are just the witness, you can't smoke in public. Too many rules, so different from home", says Harminder Singh.

    Two 'Indian' practices that do exist here, however, cause immigrants the maximum trouble. They are sifarish baazi (nepotism) and mufat ka kaam (free work). The Canadians, of course, have given them sophisticated terminologies, the former is referred to as 'networking' and the latter, 'volunteerism'. In a country where you are never encouraged to 'drop in' to meet someone, where the fax, the computer or the phone is used to complete most transactions, a job-seeking immigrant often has the phone put down on him. Polite but firm secretaries block access, unless the caller can drop a magic name that can help him gain entry. It takes at least a year for even the most enterprising immigrant to get to know somebody who can help him, before he can get a job at all.

    'Networking' goes hand in hand with 'volunteerism'. Many immigrants put in a year of free service before they are given the job. Most writers and anchors of Asian origin are given only part-time jobs, paid by assignment and with no fringe benefits. The company insists on the word 'freelance' on their business cards, to make it clear they have not been hired by the company, and hence can't demand higher pay or any benefits. They can, and often are, fired at will.

    Perhaps the greatest problem in Canada is the one that is least articulated--racism. According to a diversity report on Toronto (said to be the most ethnically diverse city in the world), the year 2000 will see its minority becoming its majority that is, 54 per cent of Toronto's population by the end of the millennium will be non-Whites. Keeping that in mind, it warned, if the discrimination against them in education, employment, income and housing, or incidents of hate are not addressed, it will lead to a growing sense of frustration.

    "All our problems exist because of racism", sums up Anita Ferrao, who works in a firm. Anita has worked for them for three years and has got neither promotion nor raise. "As an Indian immigrant, you can never reach the top. They'll see to that. It's better to bring in some money here and start a business. It's the only way you'll do well here and be respected. "
    But then if life is so tough here, why do people give up everything back home and come? The answer is the rosy picture of North America, inculcated right from childhood. Everything 'American' is considered superior. Better food, better homes, better life.

    Each potential immigrant pays at least Rs 2 lakh chasing that dream. Multiply that by the thousands of Indians admitted each year, and further, by the number of immigrants accepted from all over the world, and you hit upon the most lucrative business today in Canada. According to a leading White immigration lawyer here, who prefers to remain anonymous, his own fee is 8,000 Canadian dollars, which comes to Rs 2,38,000. The government levies extra charges.

    What do immigration lawyers advice potential immigrants? "Do your homework, before deciding to go ahead with your application. Arm yourself with facts about Canada. And when you do apply, stick to the truth yourself. You won't be in for unpleasant surprises, then. The rest is up to one's initiative and optimism." Indians need that, says one lawyer, as many of them fall into depression: the changes are just too much. But, he clarifies, Canada is the best. Where else will you find a land of opportunity, that still cares about its people? That's what the Indians come looking for. And haven't discovered yet.



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  • snram4
    01-18 10:16 AM
    It is true.They were implemented stirctly. But to cheat that many of bodyshoppers are creating fake Paystubs. Getting just payroll expenses and tax from consultant and creating paystubs. How do you prevent that? When good faith effort fails more and more regulations are coming. If our bodyshoppers are honest there would have no regulations like that.

    All your relatives are like you only...just plain dump.:D The salary on bench is already stricly enforced. First they asked for end client verification. Now employer-employee verification. First they should fix the backlog for GC.





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  • kaisersose
    07-17 10:50 AM
    Assuming that the spill overs are effected only in the last (JAS) quarter, there wont be any significant movement for EB2. Until and otherwise the supply is more than demand, EB2 will not move forward significantly.

    But I wish EB2 becomes current in the near future. Correct me if i am wrong.

    How "near" is near? For EB2 to become current, the current policy of horizontal spillover should reamin in effect through Fiscal 2009. if that holds true, then as spillover takes effect typically after the first 6 months, we should see movement in India EB2 again, starting from April/May 2009 and there is good possiblity that EB2-India may reach somewhere close to July 2007, if not current.



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  • InTheMoment
    07-15 10:04 PM
    vdlrao,

    True Eb2 will move and would not retrogress taking the new FY as a whole..but it becoming current by next Oct is a bit far fetched.

    Remember in the first quarter of FY07 EB2 was U with all 01, 02, 03, and Jan-Mar 04 (mostly 03 as 01 and 02 were current for long and didn't have many in the labor backlog centers) used all the numbers. With several EB2's issued during the fiasco + 1st and 3rd quarter and into the 4th quarter, we are now slowly seeing everything till Mar 04 cleared up. It took almost a year to have 03 cleared up.

    And you guess is 04-08 would get cleared in another year :p hard to believe!


    I presume EB2 India will be current by next October. Till now for EB2 India there are only 7% of 140K visas. Due to the new change of horizontal fall outs EB2 India exclusively getting about 50k visas, very little share to china. So this change making an availability of additional 50k visas to EB2 India along with regular 9.8k. So total About 60K visas for EB2 India. This includes unused Family Visa Numbers as well.

    And due to the change to Horizontal Fall out of Visa Numbers from Vertical Fall outs, Its not the India which loses but its EB3 ROW.





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  • ak_2006
    05-29 04:03 PM
    Folks - here is the thing. lets work towards fixing our issues.

    If people feel USCIS must know about EB1 fraud or other stuff, there are enough people to write to them and if people want to write to USCIS - no one stops them from writing.

    As such, so many people write about different things - people write about eb2 - people write about consulting companies etc... So if you wish to do what you want to do you can do it.

    Remember - when you make a claim that someone is falsfying or breaking law you must present facts and explain properly as to why you think it is not right and why you think you are affected by this.

    Now when you do this - someone can definitely write why they think what YOU are doing is not right and why there are issues with your application.

    IV focuses on advocacy - together we resolve our issues. Things like employer not paying salary, employer benching, cheating etc... are things IV members must collectively deal with andhelp themselves.

    Things like wrongful denials when used AC21, poor customer service etc... are ones IV members can collectively resolve and IV helps

    Things like organizing grassroots efforts, job networking, help networks, lobbying etc... are the kind of things IV stands for.


    I completely agree with you.



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  • Lasantha
    12-14 04:41 PM
    If that were the case then the rest of us must be equlally skeptical of your ideas since you yourself hail from an oversubscribed country. :cool:

    All you need to do is listen to the idea with an open mind and see if that makes sense. Obviously the ppl from oversubscribed countries would love to see these restrictions removed (and I can understand that) but please also keep in mind that the people from ROW will think twice about supporting such a move if it's done without other provisions like increasing the total quota, visa recapture, excluding dependents and faster processing times.


    On the other hand if you are from "ROW" then all your attempts to kill this ideas will make me understand how scared you are of this idea and hence how good this idea really is. :)





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  • ramus
    07-03 04:17 PM
    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/US_cap_on_employment-based_visas/articleshow/2170349.cms



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  • venkat80
    09-23 08:20 PM
    http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2008/09/can-immigrants.html

    CAN IMMIGRANTS HELP ADDRESS THE FINANCIAL MELTDOWN

    A lot of people may not be aware that hundreds of thousands of highly skilled immigrants - people with bachelors, masters, Ph.Ds, medical degrees, etc. - are stuck waiting in a queue for green cards that can last ten years or more. These are precisely the people who can help keep American competitive and they could provide some needed help in resolving the banking crisis that has gripped the country. One group, Immigration Voice, is proposing Congress consider a legislative solution that would provide green card numbers for people who can demonstrate they qualify in one of the employment-based green card categories if they buy a home and place at least 25% down on the property. This won't solve the crisis, of course, but it is one way to inject some life in to the bleak housing market.

    I'd like to see this proposal possibly coupled with a retiree visa which would provide long term visas to people who have the means to pay cash for a home and buy a home within a specified period of time after coming to the US, have substantial assets, have pre-paid for health insurance and who do not intend to work in the US.





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  • samay
    07-15 01:34 PM
    My son recently finished his high school and wanted to do Dental degree in India. My current situation is I have applied for adjustment of status in July 2007. Me and my family got the EAD and AP. My priority date is Eb3-November 2005. WIth this mess, I am not sure when I will get my green card.
    My question is:
    Can I send my son to India for his studies when the adjustment of status is pending. Will it be considered as abondaned if he is out of US when the adjustment of status is in progress?.
    Is there any specific forms for this type of situation so that he can go for studies in India and continue the adjustment of status.

    Hello,

    If your son has a AP then he can go study in India so long as he comes back every year and renews his AP. If he continues to do this his status will not be considered abandoned.



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  • Vishal2007
    05-02 12:46 AM
    read Indian history, you know how Gandhiji is self-fish.





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  • aps
    09-23 02:26 AM
    Most of us are waiting in line for years by sacrificing their career growth and earnings with the so called consulting companies. what for? To get a green card by buying a home here? Is it sensible? common. Bring some common solution to everybody, not for few. If you want to leave some IV members behind, then you may continue with this idea. your proposal DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE to me.



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  • test101
    07-04 11:31 AM
    I tried xls, and txt. it wont upload.i have total 655 contacts. The file size is small but still it wont upload on the iV site.

    someone pls tell me how to upload , i have now an .xls file of media contacts, about 931k in size.





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  • Marphad
    03-27 11:08 AM
    Election in India is approaching fast. Who will be next prime minister of India.

    (This is better than doing predictions for visa bulletins :)).



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  • cableman
    08-28 07:59 AM
    Our frustration with the US legal immigration and retrogression seems endless. My wife and I are considering immigration prospects to Canada. Can somebody please suggest good responsive lawfirms that could handle a Canadian PR application? We would also appreciate some insight on Canadian immigration prospects for physicians. Thanks

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1332&highlight=canada

    Good luck.





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  • MYGC2008
    09-25 03:15 PM
    I agree with you EB2ROW might have not got 20K visa in the past. That may be because economy was good, lot of EB1 apps, spillover not done properly etc.

    But Why not this year? economy is still not good, less EB1 apps and probably USCIS might do the right spillover. It is only hope.

    I don't think in any year EB2ROW has got 40K GC in the past, even when the economy was in good shape.

    Does anyone has links for the annual GC issuance per country/per category for 2008. I missed the link.

    The worst case scenario would be 20,000 max. That means EB2(I) will move to Mid or3 rd quarter of 2006 by end of 2010.





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  • Googler
    02-18 03:58 PM
    I do not understand why out of 205 people who voted yes, nobody has :

    1) Contacted an attorney with his own money if they are so interested?
    2) Nobody has agreed to become a plaintiff except Googler.

    Googler, why don't you lead this effort and become the plaintiff and get a lawyer to start filing a case? You can file a class action lawsuit on behalf of all immigrant community. Once you file the case people will thank you and appreciate your bravery.

    I do not think this lawsuit idea will go anywhere unless someone is willing to risk his greencard for it. Because once you become a plaintiff USCIS will review your case more thoroughly. Plus you need to get your employer on the same page for it. You also need to spend thousands of dollars from your own pocket to take part in your lawsuit.

    Another thing, I do not trust lawyers opinion in this matter unless a lawyer is a litigation lawyer. If a lawfirm is good at filing paperwork and filling applications, they cannot do a class action lawsuit. They may show interest in it for money and publicity. You need to get a litigation lawyer only for it.

    I've said this before but perhaps I'll have to say it many more times till it sinks in
    ... the thinking on this is at a VERY VERY VERY preliminary stage. In real life class action lawsuits, named plaintiffs are chosen based on how well they fit the argument in the case, not the other way round. As I said upthread, all those who want decisions, deals, money etc RIGHT NOW are being pretty unrealistic -- probably just because of unfamiliarity with the progress of cases like this. I know people want to be reassured that there is NO risk of losing, every decision node is mapped out, responsibility assigned, but if that is what anyone is thinking they have to rejigger their thinking. ;-)


    IV members should also be aware that all we need are a few named plaintiffs, it isn't as though every IV member or even everyone wanting to sue needs to be a named plaintiff. All the judge needs to recognize is that there is a large group of applicants with same or similar grounds for suing USCIS/Emilio Gonzalez. Edit to add: IV the organization doesn't even need to be the primary plaintiff, since that will necessarily cutoff any parallel discussion with the agencies. The IV forums are just a place to organize this.

    Internet, if you voted no, why are you so worked up about it? Nobody is about to make you do anything you don't want to do. Carry on with your life, this is not about to impinge you negatively. Why do you care what other people do with their time?

    For people who voted yes, it is worth thinking about what you are willing to do for the effort -- at present, all that is needed is an interest and willingness to read and do some research and THAT IS ALL. Read the two paragraphs I quoted above.

    As far as contacting attorneys and moving the ball forward, it is a time consuming process -- it isn't as though they call you right back with a draft brief and legal arguments. This is not an ordinary paperwork issue. It has after all been a grand total of 6 days since the poll was started on 2-12-08!! ;-)





    alisa
    02-12 08:26 PM
    Thats the million dollar question right now.

    Everything that people have said here suggests that EB3-ROW should be leaping forward.

    It had been moving forward at the rate of 2 months / month (in one month, the date would move ahead by two months.) Then it slowed down to a month/month. And then in December, it just stopped.

    The black hole called USCIS, from which no data can escape, says there is high demand of visa numbers even in the EB-3 ROW.
    Maybe all this demand is coming from those other black holes, the backlog elimination centers.

    After reading through the forums, I understand the EB3-World needs to become current for any others to move forward.

    But now I notice that EB3-World itself has stopped moving after jumping for some months. Any reasons? (The 245i is already cleared and now it is in Aug 02)

    Is there any other 245is preventing it????





    chanduv23
    08-15 11:39 PM
    Wow what a good definition for a terrorist...can we let him go free? Ask the people who lost their loved ones. Try the same with Soudi Arabia or anyother Arab countries.

    Yes, ofcourse he is a demon. There are hundereds of thousands of people are dying without food. Not everyone is taking the arms and killing innocent people. He is a fanatic. He deserves nothing less than death. He should be cut into pieces and should be a lesson for other terrorist.

    Ok, if Kasab is cut into pieces - it does not help in anyway. Kasab is a "reqruit" and personally does not have a give/take on this.



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