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  • reddymjm
    09-09 01:53 PM
    I understand what you said, but just to consider the off numbers published by dos

    http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf


    EB2 total pending 34325
    EB3 total pending 136325


    2010-2011 quota EB1+EB2 ( 85343 )
    less eb2 - 34325
    --------------------------------------------
    51018 trickeling down for EB3 Worldwide?
    2010-2011 quota EB3 ( 42671 )
    less eb3 - 136325
    --------------------------------------------
    42636 ( eb3 pending )
    2011-2012 quota eb1+eb2+eb3 128013

    So, with above math Eb2 will be current by next year, and eb3 will be by end of 2012?

    above math is based on
    inaccurate numbers given by DOS?
    assuming no new applicants applying.
    Hope I am correct! :)
    The Formula fails if EB2 becomes current, there will be a flood of applications and 0 will trickle down EB3 ROW or Even quarterly spill could kill EB3 hopes.





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  • uma001
    07-29 05:15 AM
    Mod/Admins,

    please confirm whether we can post this type of information.This is to protect H1 guys from falling into trap from these companies





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  • ghost
    08-11 11:46 AM
    You put it out well from your side.
    BTW, are you really 2007 EB3 I? Do you have a guesstimate on when you would get GC?:rolleyes:

    Folks,

    In our legal immigrant community, we have the following Groups (G) of people:

    G1) Handful of leaders - folks who clearly understand that only legislative fixes and administrative fixes can provide realistic help
    G2) Dozens of volunteers - who are willing to take that extra step and contribute time and effort for the sake of others
    G3) Hundreds of donors, both regular or one-time - who trust IV leadership and commit to the cause without any qualms whatsoever
    G4) Thousands of members - who try to understand the issues we are facing but do not have a realistic assessment of how bad things are
    G5) Many more - who either are not bothered by this wait or who simply gave up on this process and became dormant of some sorts of their career


    While the predictions thread provided some clarity and entertainment for EB2 folks, this September 2010 bulletin is a blessing in disguise for all of us.

    Current state of our Members (M):
    M1) We have recently greened EB2 folks (2005-2006 EB2 folks), who have a fresh memory of the painful wait
    M2) We have folks who relied on predictions (May 2006 - Jul 2007 EB2 folks), who must be frustrated and disappointed with today's bulletin
    M3) We have folks who were looking forward to Jul-Sep 2011 (Aug 2007 - Dec 2008 EB2 folks), who now realize that their wait is even longer than assumed
    M4) We have EB-3 folks waiting forever and feeling that they are being neglected in IV advocacy efforts


    Folks who are in M2/M3/M4 state above should take some time and contemplate the options they have between now and Sep 2011.

    I can see three Options (O):

    O1) "Wait and Watch" option:
    This applies to folks who are either close to the PD being current or folks who are on EADs or folks who are happy with their current career state

    O2) "You are on your own" option:
    EB-3 folks - can try find a job where the employer is ready to start their EB-2 GC process within the next 6 months (make sure your current GC application has an approved 140)
    EB-2 folks - can try find a job where the employer is ready to start their EB-1 GC process

    O3) "We are in this together" option
    All EB-2 and EB-3 folks sign up for a concerted effort where IV leadership is in the driver's seat.

    Each one of us should be able to relate to one combination of Group/Member/Option (GMOs) from the above list. Personally I'm G3M3O3, what are you?





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  • ambals03
    06-10 04:39 PM
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  • snathan
    04-03 11:57 PM
    tens of people who come out and attack them on why they need money all the time. But they still go ahead and do it. The reason being for every 10 who ridicule the idea, there are 20 who support it.
    I really admire the perseverance the core shows in moving forward.

    If everything seems to be tied to donations, this is because everything needs money. You know ,keeping up this website needs money. Lobbying needs a lot of money. The other day, some one pulled the info from a public website and said 500,000$ have been already spent on lobbying. I am sure more than 90% is probably contributed y less than 5% of the members. I am not one of those 5% even remotely.

    Ignore teli and Sanju. You donot need their express approval to move forward. You know why they pick on you ? Because tyou just come and expect to be welcomed as heroes for any idea you have. You need to earn those stripes, then people will follow you.
    Tak one Idea. Do something with it. YOu may not get a positive result in the end , but your effort will be appreciated and people will be more receptive to your next idea.

    Well said...every now and then some one will pop up with some questions and attack on IV and core... Typically it used to be like this

    1. Coming up one proposal with no proper plan
    2. Attack on core and asking what the core is doing all these days...?
    3. What is preventing core from doing this and that...?

    Dont you guys understand that core members also volunteer, they do have their full time job and family. If you believe in something you need to lead the effort. You can not expect others to work and execute your half baked ideas. Come up proper plan and convince others. Otherwise actively take part in IV issues, join state chapter. Contribute more time if you can not contribute money. Build your reputation and others will follow you.

    See this Guy who op-ed this thread...once in a week/two he comes here for time pass. He is questioning everyone and advocating to contribute for the recapture though he is not even contributing a penny so far. Dont you think its funny.





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  • Ramba
    03-17 11:08 AM
    Between 2001 and 2004 all EB catagories were current for all countries (thanks to AC21 visa recapture). No one, (particularly Indians) cared about EB3 and EB2, till DOS indicated in Dec 2004 visa bulliton that EB3 India will retrogress in Jan 2005. Till that point (dec 2004) most of the labor filed are EB3 (75% is EB3 and 25% may be EB2). After Jan 2005, the filings were reverse. After Jan 2005, everyone tried to file EB2, unless they are not absolutly qualified for EB2. Till recent months, DOL was very liberal in approving LC with EB2 qualifications. Now it is difficult. Therefore EB2 India will move fast till Dec-2004 (unless most EB3 guys did not convert to EB2, by PD porting). After DEC-2004 it will be very-very slow.



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  • anurakt
    11-19 09:53 AM
    Well said anurakt! I did the same - recently changed my job and restarted the process. At the end of the day better prof. experience will give value add - not an immigration status.

    Having said that - I support IV and stand by it. I admire the attitude and am proud to be a part of the group. The immigration situation is very frustating but I'll not allow it to 'control' me.

    Cheers!


    It took a while for me to understand this situation. Now I am very clear on what I will be doing istead of tying myself to a bs immigraion system this country has. I ran after two things GC and Money ....running after GC didn't do any good....stuck with an employer.... salary below market value same position all the years....but I have decided I will run after money now.... so in current situation I have more money better position...less mental stress .... If I get GC... good ....else I will go back to my country with total financial freedom. Make my money as quickly as possible. We are all here for money and nothing else ...thus GC should not be an end to life....





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  • abhijitp
    07-18 12:37 AM
    Continuing on this forum with more generic title
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10383

    Per Greg Siskind -- July 2nd filers might have to file again, as all July 2nd application were rejected. Check out the link below as well as the comment section for the blog

    Greg Siskind is reporting the following about July2nd rejection here
    http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2007/07/faqs-part-1.html

    part of above post --
    USCIS did not state how cases filed and rejected on the 2nd are to be handled other than to say that properly filed applications would be accepted. This presumably covers the many cases filed after the second that were held, but it doesn�t explain what will happen to the cases received earlier. We hope USCIS will issue special instructions to issue July 2nd receipt dates to those who are able to document they attempted to file. We presume some folks are still waiting on their July 2nd cases to be returned and are debating refiling new cases rather than waiting. Unfortunately, there is a risk of not getting the package back before August 17th and some people will need to refile without proof of the earlier filing. Hopefully, again, USCIS will institute a process for such individuals to avoid being penalized.
    USCIS has not announced any details yet on how it will determine which cases get 2007 visa numbers that might still be available. We also don�t know yet how cases will be processed that are not in the batch of cases that get green card numbers this year. For those who will have to get numbers in future years, applications should be worked by the order of the priority date. So applicants with labor certifications approved some time back, for example, should go before people in the same category with later priority dates.
    For individuals filing cases not requiring a labor certification (such as Schedule A cases and national interest waivers), the priority date is the date of filing. Because there may be hundreds of thousands of applications received between July 2nd and August 17th with many of these cases not requiring a labor certification, the date during this six week period a case is filed could make a big difference in terms of when a case will complete processing. And, again, getting that July 2nd priority date for those who filed early and were rejected could make a big difference in when their cases are ultimately processed through to completion.

    This would be interesting as well as cause for concern for many of us. Do we have to go through the whole process one more time and file again?



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  • BharatPremi
    03-17 02:30 PM
    Thanks
    What I am saying is spill over from ROW goes to EB2 first. It does not split to EB2 and EB3 evenly. So more people from EB2 gets visa granted and thus people who joined EB2 bandwagon from EB3 and had earlier PD, they get Visa quickly. Now generally this spillover does not go to EB3 from EB2 having high demand from EB2 and thus EB3 get stuck with conventional numbers with 7% country limit and thus EB3 numbers move slowly. But if that spillover happens for both EB3 and 2 equally than EB3 can also move little bit quickly which is not the case. Thus shortening the queue by switching over to EB2 does not give full advantage to remained lot of EB3.





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  • pd_recapturing
    12-10 03:49 PM
    Do some population control in India and China, that would automatically fix the issue of retrogression. We are simply too many and we have clogged the system real bad. every 6th person on the face of this earth is Indian.
    you hit the nail ... this is the biggest reason ...We are just too many and everyone wants to come to US



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  • danu2007
    10-30 11:03 PM
    Done..Posted the letter





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  • virtual55
    07-02 07:35 PM
    I strongly believe that Immigration Voice website should be paid website.
    People should be willing to spend $20 per month for the information the website provides(foreg: It was useful for self filers to file I485 and saved atleast $2000 each person), I think $20 per month, should be enough for maintaining 99% reliable website and for its lobbying efforts and law suit etc.

    Guys please share your thoughts.

    even if 3000 members join paid website that will be 3000*20 = $60000 per month and $720000 per year which is substantial amount to perform lobbying, law suit, maintain website etc



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  • vagish
    04-04 10:22 AM
    You will notice that there is not a single provision here that protects the rights of H1B workers and saves them from exploitation.

    There is not a single provision to punish employers who exploit H1Bs.

    Even with other immigration bills you will see there is not a single provision in these immigrtaion bills that punishes employers that hire illegal aliens. Thus all immigration laws being made never punish any US citizen breaking the law by employing an illegal alien or paying low salary or exploiting an H1B.

    Even with the current law, have you seen how many employers have been punished for employing illegal aliens. Do you know the penalty for getting caught. It is a mere $500 and nothing else. And you will be surprised to know that not even 100 employers have been fined last year. And only 2 H1B employers were punished after being sued by employees. No H1B employer was caught and punished for exploiting any employee. The laws are being made to favor US employers and to punish immigrants.

    I am surprised that nobody is noticing this.

    the laws are there , but only on the books, they don't fund them for enforcement.
    Also some laws are very week and needs to be changed.
    I think general american public is getting to know more about it as everyday
    passess with immigration debate. I think in the future if they pass any law
    it will come with heavy enforcement and also the provisions like hiking h1B and
    green card numbers, both will go hand in hand , there will be some controvercial provisions for both sides .





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  • sammas
    07-12 03:57 PM
    E. APPLICABILITY OF INA SECTION 202(a)(5)(A)AS IT RELATES TO THE ALLOCATION OF �OTHERWISE UNUSED� NUMBERS

    INA Section 202(a)(5)(A), added by the American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act (AC21), provides that if total demand will be insufficient to use all available numbers in a particular Employment preference category in a calendar quarter, then the otherwise unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual per-country limits. This provision helps to assure that all available Employment preference numbers may be used. In recent years, the application of Section 202(a)(5)(A) has occasionally allowed oversubscribed countries such as China-mainland born and India to utilize large quantities of Employment First and Second preference numbers that would have otherwise gone unused.

    For example, let us assume that 11,600 Employment Second preference numbers are available in a calendar quarter. There is heavy Employment Second preference demand by China-mainland born and India applicants; however, each country is oversubscribed and would ordinarily be limited to about 800 of the available numbers due to the prorating provisions of INA Section 202(e). Applicants from other countries that have not yet reached their per-country limit have reported a total demand of 6,500 numbers. After taking the worldwide demand into account, it is determined that as a result of the China-mainland born and India per-country limits only 8,100 of the total available Employment Second preference numbers would be used in that quarter. In this instance, the otherwise unused 3,500 numbers could then be made available to China-mainland born and India regardless of their per-country limits. Should that occur, the same cut-off date would be applied to each country, since numbers must be provided strictly in priority date order regardless of chargeability. In this instance, greater number use by one country would indicate a higher rate of demand by applicants from that country with earlier priority dates.



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  • desi3933
    01-30 02:35 PM
    I dont get it, u r a EB3- india (ur profile says that) with SEp 05 PD and you got an RFE on 485? Cos, i know uscis did not even touch eb3 india with any PD of even 2002. something is not right?


    Incorrect! This is just a myth. I-485 RFE can be issued and it can be denied when PD is not current.

    Read on my post on same thread
    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=313977&postcount=14





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  • matreen
    05-13 09:26 PM
    I have the same question, currently I am on EAD and no H1B visa. Can I elibible for financial aid?

    Please advice what options I have to procure loan either that is financial aid or other alternatives.

    Thanks,
    Matt


    Hi
    For all those who are doing Online MBA/part time was any one successful in getting a financial aid through FASFA? If not FASFA what are other alternatives? like loans from bank etc?

    When I applied for financial aid they told me that since I dont have my greencard Im not eligible



    Thnks
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  • vkannan
    11-12 10:59 PM
    WRONG.
    YOU are an EB2 India guy for sure and your PD is close.

    If spillover happens, all visas will get used up by EB2 India only. EB3 India gets nothing. There are way too many Indians in the system. Even if something is left from EB2 India, EB3 ROW will get breadcrums.

    EB3 India gets nothing. So stop giving wrong logic. I will oppose IV helping EB2 guys with close priority dates and not caring about everyone else.

    Well, No wonder why we still could not pass any bill in our favour, Keep fighting Dude, EB1 vs EB2 v EB3 v horozontal spill vs vertical spill vs etc etc etc., Keep fighting....you are a good samaritan......





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  • gc_aspirant_prasad
    09-11 06:54 PM
    ^^^ Bump ^^^^





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  • bfadlia
    09-10 05:55 PM
    Guys,
    The link isnt working for me too.

    I hope things work in favor with this bill today, but if not, we must ask for Citizenship instead of Greencards. Anyone with me.,

    We have all waited for 5-10 year and there are many who got it in one year and then Citizenship in 6-8 years from the day they got their GCs. That was the normal timeframe. But due to their inefficiency, we are waiting this much time. NOT our fault. Now dont you guys think we must ask for Citizenship.. I thought my case was too stressful, came 99, applied 04, waiting for 485 now, but I have seen so many many stories of ohter guys also here who suffered more. I feel we must ask them Citizenship. If we get, great, else atleast we end up with GC.
    Anybody with me,

    Thanks,
    Sri.,

    That is absolutely reasonable.
    Canada does exactly that. You need 4 years for citizenship, but if you were in the country legally before getting permanent residence that is counted.
    Unfortunately, US legislators don't care about what's reasonable, their only thinking is "will supporting this bill benefit or hurt my chances of re-election"





    vandanaverdia
    09-11 07:08 PM
    "All men dream but not equally.
    Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes to make it possible."
    - T.E. Lawrence

    Don't we all dream of getting a GC???
    What is stopping you from to DC???
    Come & join hands & lets be heard!!!!
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    zen
    04-03 03:09 PM
    o.k. ..I will first tell the issues which are preventing me from doing what you say.
    whenever we/I come with ideas - some members come up with posts to attack and kill the idea. ( teli and sanju ..).

    everything seems to be tied to donations ..but do people even think before parting with their money ?(it is their money and there is a saying for such attitude). some say donate for lobbying ... how much does that cost ? how much is needed ? no info is provided.
    say we are raising 10K every month and say lobbying requires 500 K ...5 - 8 years will go just to reach that amount (by that time, some will say lobbying needs more money ) !!!



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