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  • dpp
    07-09 03:53 PM
    I dont think legally you can sue someone, because they have worked harder.
    I posted this link , so that everybody may know the legal reasons, which we can be presented in a court of law.

    If this lawsuit is accepted by the court , then the USCIS lawyers would tell what exactly happened.

    I till now personally believe , that the USCIS/DOS hasnt broken any law.
    They may have however changed a pettern,process , but no law has been broken.

    Everybody knows they didn't broke the law, but the way they followed is wrong.

    I saw somebody suing her company because her colleagues are using perfumes. If this kind of US, then why should we leave them for this disaster.

    What they broke is "They need to give prior notice in advance". They cannot give one-hour or one-min notice. They haven't given one-min notice also. It is outrageous. So, please don't say that they didn't broke any law.

    Do you know what does it mean by notice? It should be given well in advance if you want to convey something.

    They completely broke all those ethical laws.





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  • go_getter007
    05-29 03:08 AM
    You are in *their* country so you have to follow *their* laws. If you don't like it, you have two choices - suck it up OR get out of there.

    GG_007


    While on the way back from White Mountains in NH, our car was stopped on I-93 south by the US border patrol. They were stopping every single vehicle to question. They had over a dozen Govt vehicles with 40-50 people in uniform. My buddy was driving.
    Officer : Sir what is your status in the US ?
    Buddy: I am on L1 visa
    I: H1B
    buddy's wife: L2
    my wife: H4
    officer: is anyone US citizen ?
    I: my son is (he was sitting in the car seat)

    Officer: (to my buddy) Is your visa still valid ?
    Buddy: yes
    officer: do you have documents to prove your status?
    buddy: i have some papers in my bag which in the the trunk
    officer: can you show me?
    (buddy got out showed him tax papers and answered some questions)
    officer: did they not tell you you are supposed to carry your papers while travelling?
    buddy: I came over a year ago so i don't remember
    officer: I am letting you go, but i could have fined you $2000; $500 for each pasenger with no papers.

    I was so pissed off by this experience, clearly they are doing this to harrase immigrants. theoratically even if I am going for a walk i am supposed to carry immigration papers because a border patrol officer, in theory, could asks me for my papers ?

    http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/immigration_Border_flyer.pdf

    I have decided that if anyone ask me such a stupid question again inside the US and i am just going to remain silent even if that means they detain me for some time.





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  • drirshad
    06-30 08:38 PM
    It has never happened in the history that they revised any visa bulletin, just hope for the best & pray .......





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  • hpandey
    05-26 04:43 PM
    While on the way back from White Mountains in NH, our car was stopped on I-93 south by the US border patrol. They were stopping every single vehicle to question. They had over a dozen Govt vehicles with 40-50 people in uniform. My buddy was driving.
    Officer : Sir what is your status in the US ?
    Buddy: I am on L1 visa
    I: H1B
    buddy's wife: L2
    my wife: H4
    officer: is anyone US citizen ?
    I: my son is (he was sitting in the car seat)

    Officer: (to my buddy) Is your visa still valid ?
    Buddy: yes
    officer: do you have documents to prove your status?
    buddy: i have some papers in my bag which in the the trunk
    officer: can you show me?
    (buddy got out showed him tax papers and answered some questions)
    officer: did they not tell you you are supposed to carry your papers while travelling?
    buddy: I came over a year ago so i don't remember
    officer: I am letting you go, but i could have fined you $2000; $500 for each pasenger with no papers.

    I was so pissed off by this experience, clearly they are doing this to harrase immigrants. theoratically even if I am going for a walk i am supposed to carry immigration papers because a border patrol officer, in theory, could asks me for my papers ?

    http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/immigration_Border_flyer.pdf

    I have decided that if anyone ask me such a stupid question again inside the US and i am just going to remain silent even if that means they detain me for some time.


    Yes I also saw this while going to NH this weekend. Crazy people I would say . Didn't seem logical to me seeing them blocking the whole highway. Maybe they were looking for someone or had a genuine reason for doing it in such a manner since stopping one or two happens all the time but they were really doing it to a lot of people.



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  • svr_76
    06-10 12:51 PM
    @hpandey : I dont think that this is any "racist" amendment. I think this amendment is more geared towards the perception that Microsoft (US) (and the simmilars) when firing ppl in US fire citizen and "hire" (H1B ppl immediately). I think if at all it needs improvement on what they mean by "same title" as within the same title people skills/trade would be different.





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  • GCNirvana007
    10-10 01:33 PM
    Just to avoid all this , You can say I'm a US citizen and move on. They cannot ask for any verification can they?

    No how about carry the documents which is required by LAW rather your criminal suggestion?

    Its simple, its LAW. They have clearly stated to carry. Just carry the damn documents and get over it. I see it amusing people whining about this. Its not like they are raping you. They are asking questions which they are entitled to. If someone crosses the line, then yes we can take it up on them.



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  • ronhira
    04-11 06:05 PM
    Good point. I appreciate your hard work.

    This may be helpful
    245(i), Adjustment of Status Permanent Residence, Life Act | V Visa, K Visa (http://www.callyourlawyers.com/245%28i%29revival.html)

    GRANDFATHERED DERIVATIVE FAMILY MEMBERS

    Grandfathered children and spouses: Accepting Applications for Adjustment of Status Under Section 245(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 06/10/1999 INS memo

    Section 245(i) defines the term "beneficiary" to include a spouse or
    child "eligible to receive a visa under section 203(d) of the Act." This
    applies to spouses or children "accompanying or following to join" the
    principal alien.

    An alien who is accompanying or following to join an alien who is a
    grandfathered alien is thus also the "beneficiary" of the grandfathered
    petition or labor certification application and is also grandfathered.

    Since an alien's ability to characterize himself or herself as
    "accompanying or following to join" the principal alien depends on the
    existence of a qualifying relationship at the time of the principal's
    adjustment, adjudicators must determine whether the relationship existed
    prior to the time the alien adjusted status. Officers should remember
    that the burden of proof to establish the qualifying relationship rests
    with the applicant.

    The spouse or child of a grandfathered alien as of January 14 is also
    grandfathered for 245(i) purposes. This means that the spouse or child
    is grandfathered irrespective of whether the spouse or child adjusts
    with the principal. The pre-January 15 spouse or child also are
    grandfathered even after losing the status of spouse or child, such as
    by divorce or by becoming 21 years of age, by the petitioner�s
    naturalization, through the parents� divorce, or even if the principal
    or petitioner dies. Grandfathered eligibility attaches to the person and
    not the petition. Many aliens with pending, grandfathered petitions or
    labor certification applications will marry or have children after the
    qualifying petition or application was filed but before adjustment of
    status. These "after-acquired" children and spouses are allowed to
    adjust under 245(i) as long as they acquire the status of a spouse or
    child before the principal alien ultimately adjusts status.

    An alien who becomes the child or spouse of a grandfathered alien
    after the alien adjusts status or immigrates cannot adjust status under
    section 245(i) unless he or she has an independent basis for
    grandfathering.

    "Aged-out" children

    Often, a principal alien who has filed a visa petition or labor
    certification application will have a "child" who reaches the age of 21,
    and thus no longer meet the statutory definition of child, before the
    petition or application is approved or the principal alien adjusts
    status. However, such an "aged-out" beneficiary will remain a
    beneficiary for the purpose of determining whether he or she may use
    section 245(i) to adjust status.

    Eligibility: An alien who is included in the categories of
    restricted aliens under 245.1(b) and meets the definition of a
    ``grandfathered alien'' may apply for adjustment of status under section
    245 of the Act if the alien meets the requirements of paragraphs (b)(1)
    through (b)(7) of this section:

    (1) Is physically present in the United States;
    (2) Is eligible for immigrant classification and has an immigrant visa
    number immediately available at the time of filing for adjustment of
    status;
    (3) Is not inadmissible from the United States under any provision of
    section 212 of the Act, or all grounds for inadmissibility have been
    waived;
    (4) Properly files Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent
    Residence or Adjust Status on or after October 1, 1994, with the
    required fee for that application;
    (5) Properly files Supplement A to Form I-485 on or after October 1,
    1994;
    (6) Pays an additional sum of $1,000, unless payment of the additional
    sum is not required under section 245(i) of the Act; and
    (7) Will adjust status under section 245 of the Act to that of lawful
    permanent resident of the United States on or after October 1, 1994.

    hypocrisy as its best...... need another quote from gandhi....

    u'r saying its crime for others to file application of their spouse & children...... aren't u waiting for the aos approval for u'r child...... but if other files for their family member..... according to u its a crime....





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  • Rockford
    08-29 03:36 PM
    I moved to a desi consulting company after I got layed off in 6th year of h1b. ..................... But recently I asked my lawyer for a copy of my L/C and i 140 petition and she refused to give, then my employer requested them to give it to me. ............ and finally I had to talk to my employer and we deicded not to use their services anymore just for my case,.


    Chandu,

    Just for the record sake, the LC and I140 are your employers petitions and the lawyer is not supposed to give them to you without your employer's consent/approval.

    I am sure there are other issues with your lawyer, but this case is kind of fair.

    There may be some lawyers who are lenient in this aspect, especially in cases where the beneficiary is paying the lawyer directly.



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  • kumar1
    12-10 01:57 PM
    Why are you jumping like s stupid dog? Please explain.

    and EB2-India by a month; yaaaaay :)





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  • optimystic
    03-17 03:36 PM
    What I am saying is spill over from ROW goes to EB2 first. It does not split to EB2 and EB3 evenly. So more people from EB2 gets visa granted and thus people who joined EB2 bandwagon from EB3 and had earlier PD, they get Visa quickly. Now generally this spillover does not go to EB3 from EB2 having high demand from EB2 and thus EB3 get stuck with conventional numbers with 7% country limit and thus EB3 numbers move slowly. But if that spillover happens for both EB3 and 2 equally than EB3 can also move little bit quickly which is not the case. Thus shortening the queue by switching over to EB2 does not give full advantage to remained lot of EB3.

    Bottom line, people moving away from EB3 to EB2 queue does provide relief to people remaining in the EB3 queue. Since now there's 'x' less number of people competing for the 7% visa numbers.

    Its a different matter that the spillover from ROW is going to benefit EB2 queue more than it does EB3. But that's a different point. And in fact, if EB2 starts moving faster because of this spill over, hopefully more Eb3 people jump ship to Eb2 queue . In that case the ROW spillover is indirectly going to help people who stay back in Eb3 queue.

    As for myself, I have Eb3 India PD of May 2001, which is very close to the front of the queue. So none of this queue jumping or spillover will affect my status much :) . On the other hand the USCIS' ability to sanely act in a FIFO order does ! But thats impervious to any external factors :)



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  • Nil
    03-17 12:10 PM
    of course i would not vote for any preferential treatment of qualification over category.
    But in case certain people are heard of separately (example: folks with US education or prior experience qualifying them for a different category, as also the number of years they have paid taxes), it will only benefit the remaining.

    The Masters degree exemption / extra number of H1 visas actually do not overload the total number of visas available as an instance.





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  • masouds
    02-16 12:00 PM
    Don't tell me that If I come from India, I don't assimilate with the local population.

    You don't get it, do you? I've never talked about you. What I am saying is simply this: If you don't limit the number of immigrants from one country, you essentially become a part of that country with the influx of people coming from there. This is what people in America are afraid of. They can't limit the influx of illegal immigrants from Mexico and other latin america countries, and it is becoming a big deal for them, since they don't want to be forced to learn spanish next time they go to a diner.
    Is it racist? probably so. But remember, it is their country; They make the laws. They can make people dance for 5 minutes at ports of entry while they film it and post it to youtube if they like (see recent articles about search and seizures of returning greencard holders' electronic equipment).

    If you support the old colonist and racist mentality , you stand no where. If you are so afraid of competing with Chinese and Indians that you have to refer Black period of American history, then my friend you don't belong on this website.

    And who the hell are you to tell me this?
    We don't represent any nationality here at IV but there is a good population of Indians and Chinese on this website and you don't wanna offend them with your racism. Again there is freedom of speech but you can take your a$$ to some anti-indian or anti-chinese blog if you want to release your bigotry.

    What did I say? What I mentioned was the natural tendency of people of one language and one common background to gather together and stay together, even though the whole society asks them "Please forget your background and become one of us". How is that racist? This law stops the society to become divided into two factions of 'Us' vs. 'Irish' or 'Us' vs. 'Italians' or 'Us' vs. 'Iranians', etc. There have been several waves of people coming to US for whatever reasons; They are just making sure this doesn't happen again.

    This per country cap law is very much like the tax code. If you change it to favor one class of people, you end up screwing everyone else. The current immigration law favors me, so I am happy. It doesn't favor you, so you are (understandably) unhappy. Calling me racist and trying to chase me out of IV is not going to solve your problem.



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  • frostrated
    08-21 01:54 PM
    I dont think your issuse can be fixed even by attorney. You are not coming under any category to file Green Card. So prepare for yourself to go back and build your life back in canada.
    or pray that CIR gets approved soon so that you can apply under the undocumented alien category.





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  • HawaldarNaik
    03-09 12:27 PM
    Where is the great predictor :D

    Right now he is looking into his globe...and making corrections to his calculations...so lets call him the 'Corrector' for now...and wait for his next predictions or 'pears of wisdom':D



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  • nomi
    12-13 11:03 AM
    I know , More than 50% of IV members who can not file I 485 due to retrogression will be happy to pay this nominal amount of $10 to fax letter to USCIS for rule change
    but What is the stand of Core group on this?
    No update from any one!!

    Please Core Team ,

    Help us in this option and show us right way. We will generate $60,000 for IV and if nothing happen but we will make Headline in Media which will help us in future efforts in US Senate.

    Please throw some light in this regard.

    thx.

    nomi





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  • raajpagare
    02-20 01:18 AM
    I'm one of those who say with pride that I can create jobs and buy houses. Then why will not congress or policy makers not touch this. As some here said it depends upon what we think about ourselves. I know many people who like to work under someone even after 10-15 years, my brother is like that, and I know many more like me who want to start companies, employ many people, and do bigger things. Both may be right in their own ways, but if you project yourself like me, then the doors will open.. Show enterprise..


    I appreciate and agree with your sentiment. But unfortunately politics is too dirty and they dont care about any of those things, all they care about is votes and populist agendas. The flavour of the day populist agenda is blaming immigrants for all the current economic mess and thats why politicians will be working against legal immigration rather than for it.

    But I admire your spirit and agree that we need to show the people how much potential we have for the betterment of this country, if only they let us do it.



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  • eb3_nepa
    07-28 01:21 PM
    Ok people.

    With all due respect to Lord Ganesha. This discussion is going nowhere.

    Please consider taking some time and becoming a member of the HIGH FIVE campaign.


    All IV asks you for is JUST $5.00. Thats IT.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20183

    Thanks.





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  • alisa
    01-28 11:13 AM
    Guys......
    Lets try to get more people involved, and get them to contribute. Talk to your friends. Convince them that they need to invest in IV now, to get results in the next six weeks to six months.

    Updates from core are unnecessary. Either things will happen in Febuary (485 filing) or they won't. We will find out in a few weeks.

    Try to increase membership and contributions at this point. The purpose of this thread was to try to estimate and predict visa bulletin times, so we could convince people they were in a bad situation; but we found that to be pretty difficult to do. If you can add to that topic, please feel free to do so. Otherwise, this thread should just be closed.

    In the new year, I have not seen any posts expalining how IV is "working" on resolving our issues. All that is posted now is requests for money. I know more money is needed and would be glad to contribute, if only the senior members show that some serious efforts are being made in the background. Yes IV did do very good work last year, but that is history now; but what work is going on now, nobody knows. Don't need details, but even broad details will help. Is something being done for appropriation bills, no one knows or tells.

    For example, after the elections no attempts virtually no attempts have been done to do webfax campaign tragetted towards pro-immigration inclined politicians. No lists have been made of such politicians. Just by waking up few days before the bills are discussed is not going to help.





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  • belmontboy
    01-16 03:56 PM
    Thanks to Slumdog. Sad but very true.





    santb1975
    07-01 09:42 PM
    We have been there and done that. If someone can get results through an online petition please be my guest and take the lead on the initiative. I will gladly wait to be 1000002'nd person signing the petition.





    days_go_by
    11-20 10:49 PM
    I agree with you. Only sick ppl are frustrated with delay in GC.
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    I think there are more than 6500 people here who are suffering from this disease then, about time we find a cure for it?



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