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  • sledge_hammer
    05-14 04:35 PM
    Only 215 votes for EB2 India?

    Assuming an equal number for EB3 India, EB2 China, and EB3 China, we have a total of 856 people who have applied for PD?

    We have more than 8000 members, so are we to assume the 7000 and odd members are ROW?

    Something doesn't add up.

    Can ROW people please have a poll for yourselves?





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  • Jaime
    09-04 10:40 AM
    With 100,000 already gone, and with frustrations growing at a boiling point, the pressure being applied upon us will force us onto the path of least resistance. How long before we are all gone? If you are an American reading this, did you know that every other industralized country faces declining population? Do you really want the future population growth of the U.S>to come solely from illegal Salvadorean maids? Do you wnat the high-skilled people to move away to China and India and then see your quality of life deteriorate?

    http://www.sptimes.com/2007/08/23/Business/US_faces_decline_in_s.shtml

    U.S. faces decline in skilled workers
    New study says the wait for a green card frustrates immigrants.
    By Madhusmita Bora, Times Staff Writer
    Published August 23, 2007

    The only barrier stalling Arun Shanmugam's ascent in the corporate world is a small card that would proclaim him a permanent resident of the United States.

    The green card, which isn't green in color, would help him snag the next best opportunity, launch his own company, and enjoy homestead tax rebates.

    So, this year the Tampa software engineer joined a queue of more than 300,000 immigrants vying for the coveted card. But a severe backlog is forcing high-skilled workers to question their American dream.

    On Wednesday, a Kansas-based private, nonpartisan foundation released a study warning that America could face a sizable reverse brain drain unless the government eases visa restrictions, increases the quota and speeds up the process. The Kauffman Foundation said that there are more than 1-million skilled immigrants including doctors, engineers, and scientists competing for the approximately 120,120 green cards issued each year.

    The uncertainty of the process and the imbalance in the demand and supply could trigger a trend of highly trained immigrants returning to their country and moving elsewhere.

    "It's the first time in American history that we are faced with the prospect of a reverse brain drain," said Vivek Wadhwa, Wertheim fellow with the Harvard Law School and a co-author of the study.

    "There are so many business opportunities in Shanghai and Bangalore, why put up with all the immigration crap?"

    Many of the green card applicants are on a six-year H-1 B visa. The non-immigrant work permit keeps them wedded to a single employer. Immigrants who have applied for a green card can continue working on an extended H-1 B visa until the card arrives. But they can't change employers, or start their own companies. Their wait time is open-ended, made longer by a Congress-mandated quota for the visas and severe backlogs in the system.

    Frustrated with the system, in the last three to five years, 100,000 highly skilled Chinese and Indian immigrants have returned to their home country, Wadhwa said.
    In a fiercely competitive global economy, this is the worst time for such an exodus, experts say.

    "Our previous studies document that highly skilled workers accounted for one quarter of all successful high-tech start-ups in the last decade," said Robert Litan, vice president of research and policy at the Kauffman Foundation. "If we send a lot of these people back home, we will lose a disproportionate number of entrepreneurs."

    And the ripple affects are already emerging in the Tampa Bay area.

    "It's a huge problem," said Ray Weadock, CEO and president of Persystent Technologies. "The guys in Washington don't think much and their initial reaction is this will impact Cisco and Microsoft."

    But smaller companies take a bigger hit, because they don't often have the capital to send jobs to where the labor is, Weadock said. Weadock's company, which employs Shanmugam, is toying with the idea of setting up a subsidiary in India.

    Companies aren't the only ones chasing the labor market. Schools and universities are also jumping into the wagon. The population of international students in MBA programs across the country continues to dwindle, said Bob Forsythe, dean of the College of Business at University of South Florida.

    "And the demand for American business schools to go deliver programs in other countries have increased," he said.

    Harvard University and Northwestern's Kellogg School of Management are among a growing number of schools that have a presence in India. At USF, Forsythe's team is negotiating a venture in Romania.

    The visa problems here have encouraged governments worldwide to ease visa restrictions in their countries and nab the high skilled workforce.

    "There's a lot of mention of Canada," said Chandra Mitchell, an immigration attorney with Tampa-based Neil F. Lewis.

    Amar Nayegandhi, a USF graduate and a contract employee with the U.S. Geological Survey, has been waiting for his green card since 2002.

    He may soon give up, he said. The long wait has cost him job opportunities, forced upon him a commuter marriage and restricted his economic mobility. His H1-B visa runs out in February, and even though he can extend it and continue awaiting the green card, he's contemplating leaving the country.

    "I have friends who have gone back simply frustrated with the setup," he said. "I am asking myself if this is really worth it."

    Shanmugam of Persystent Technologies says he, too, will only wait for about a year before considering giving up his spot in the line and heading back to his native India.

    "This is not the only place to be anymore," he said. "You can find better opportunities everywhere."

    By the numbers
    200,000: Employment-based applicants waiting for labor certification in 2006 - the first step in the U.S. immigration process.
    50,132: Pending I-140 applications - the second step of the immigration process. That's seven times the total in 1996 of 6,743.
    125,421: Estimated applicants residing abroad who were waiting for permanent residency status.
    100,000: Estimated number of highly skilled Chinese and Indian immigrants who have returned to their home country in recent years.

    Highlights of Kauffman Foundation reports
    - Foreign nationals are contributing to one out of four of all the global patents filed in the United States.
    - One quarter of all tech companies nationwide and 52 percent of tech companies in the Silicon Valley were founded by immigrants.
    - More than 1-million skilled workers and their families (scientists, doctors, engineers, Ph.D. researchers) are waiting for green cards. About 120,0000 green cards are issued each year with a 7 percent limit per country.
    -Hundreds of thousands of skilled immigrant workers may get frustrated with the waiting process that could be 6 to 10 years and leave the United States. The reverse brain drain could be critical to Americans corporations and hurt the country's competitiveness in a global economy.
    - Immigrant-founded companies produced $52-billion in revenues and employed 450,000 workers in 2006.

    Madhusmita Bora can be reached at mbora@sptimes.com or (813) 225-3112.

    [Last modified August 22, 2007, 23:19:43]





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  • nozerd
    01-18 12:54 PM
    Only Primary applicant needs to take it for sure. Even for US immigration you could be NIW candidate but your spouse may be illiterate still she will also get GC.





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  • satyasrd
    01-10 01:13 PM
    Does anyone know what the text of this bill spells out ? I hope they are talking about allotting GC's to the people waiting in line and not newly graduated folks.



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  • hopefulgc
    09-02 11:57 AM
    If this is not like a "third world" goverrnment/municipality office, then what is?

    I think we all might just have to form groups of 10 people each and file group WOMs replete with reimbursement of attorney expenses.






    Edit. Latest ..on my case.(with a little history) and this is hilarious.

    8/21/2008 : Talk with the California Service Center (hopefully)
    Me: My case has been transferred all of a sudden to California with the PD became current (on july 21, 2008), why ?
    Answer: Your case has been sent back to TSC on Aug. 15th. We do not have the case any more. You can call TSC to confirm.


    8/22/2008: Talk with Customer Service
    Customer Service: Your case is still in California.

    9/2/2008 : Info pass appointment. Talk with IO
    IO: Your case is still in TSC but will be transferred to CSC soon.

    I cannot believe such an organization exists in the world.
    ************************************************** *********************************





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  • sh2005
    08-13 10:43 AM
    Yes, i opened a new thread so that everybody can see that CIS does mostly work on cases according to 485 Receipt Date. Otherwise i can't justify my EAD approval. I filed 485 and AP on June 18th and got RNs 2 weeks later. But EAD was filed later on July 12th. I got the receipt number for EAD from the back of my cashed check but never got actual Receipt Notice. Today i got the email that card production has been ordered.

    So if they have to approve an EAD filed in mid July, they must have gone with the 485 Receipt date. There is an LUD for our APs too for this Sunday. I'm happy that they are processing the cases in somewhat FIFO order. I was expecting EAD only 3-4months later since i filed it along with the July flood of applications.

    Dec2002 EB3 India.


    How about the processing date that was shown for your service center? I applied my I-485, EAD and AP in May (got my RN in may as well). The processing time for EAD and AP is shown to be March 26, 2007 for NSC. But, I recently got my EAD approved and an RFE for AP. So, is the website for processing time not updated as accurately as it made to be seen or somehow some applications (like mine and yours) bypass the FIFO?

    On a separate note, I got an email that an RFE has been issued for my EAD, but I already got the EAD card in hand, before the RFE was issued!!!



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  • knnmbd
    07-14 01:48 PM
    EB3 retrog is completely hopeless in next 2 or 3 years unless the legislation release is passed. Lobbying is the only way to influence.

    2 to 3 years is just wishful thinking. This is a permanent problem that we are faced with. Not to mention all the delays at the AOS stage including FBI checks and all that jazz. The only hope is the SKIL bill. WE NEED THIS MORE THAN ANY THING ELSE. I think we are at the cross-roads and this bill will well determine our future in this country





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  • sam0407
    07-18 12:55 PM
    There's no need for you to be negative.

    Obviously you have benefitted already from what's happened. Think about people who are stuck (just as you were up until recently) and want to 'try' to make things work for them too....

    wish people were more understanding of others also. Why is it people forget what it was like for them when they were in same boat?


    ps57002:

    Do not take it in negative sense, This is just my thoughts..

    1. Flower campaign served it purpose, over doing anything will give produce negative results
    2. As other IV members suggested we should come-up with someother innovative ideas. You can ask IV members for ideas, I sure our fellow members will share their thoughts.

    Again, I am strongly believe any more flower campaign at this moment will produce negative result (i.e it will annoy the recipient).

    I had the same thoughts when our IV members planned to send thank you flowers



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  • breddy2000
    12-08 07:02 PM
    vet04, Unfortunatly I dont have an answer to your question but if you dont mind can u pls let us know more about your current job so that I can start looking at your current job as an option for me incase if I get a green card. I am serious and not kidding. I want to know who is paying
    200k salary in this job market and what is the job requirement for that.

    He/She might be a "Veterinarian" as his handle is named " Vet04".Might be frustrated working with Animals all day and looking for a change,but honestly I do no know whether Vets get paid so much...:D
    Just kidding and no offense meant...:D





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  • jonty_11
    01-22 12:01 PM
    Thank you JAPS19 - This Helps - Thank you.

    I dont have H1B for the new company, just employment letter and pay stubs.

    Can you please advise why you were sent to downtown? for what verification?

    Which airport was your port of entry?

    I dont have a lawyer anymore as I got laid off from the sponsoring company and working on a new company with EAD.

    Guys, take it easy, if they deport you from the port of entry the world will not come crashing down....Always keep your head up high and walk upright....we are more educated and learned than most of the folks around the world...so why be afraid....Just be honest and tell the truth...and let time take its course...NO FEAR and HONESTY should be our motto in these times of trial!!!!



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  • fide_champ
    06-25 02:28 PM
    It looks like my lawyer has already mailed the application to USCIS. The priority dates becomes current only on July 1st.

    What are my options here? Does anyone has faced such a situation?





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  • jthomas
    06-11 01:26 PM
    people say I support it as if they are in the congress committee and the moment they say "I support it", the idea become a bill and gets passed.

    Writing letters, requesting the lawmakers for a 10 year EAD due to the retrogression would be a easy task for most of the IV members. This would create awareness and those who are afraid of meeting lawmakers would find a chance to do so. Once it create a momentum the group would be active to work on bigger issues.

    Great, if this bill gets passed it gives confidence we can do something. our voice shows strength and then more members would contribute, work on more action items etc..

    thats my thought. We have to constantly work on action plans under a good management leader.

    J thomas



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  • CADude
    03-19 11:24 PM
    I talk to USCIS CC/IO last week. She told me that it will take approx 90 days to assign my case to AO. So my case is still getting dust on room and not with officer. It's sucks but wait continue...
    PD: July 2001 (EB-3 India)
    RD: July 2nd 2007
    ND: Oct 10th 2007

    I have bigger problem to worry about. I am process of lay-off from employer whom I am working last 7 years. :)

    I called up their customer service no and was able to reach an IO at TSC and asked about the FBI name check status. I did speak to an IO 3 to 4 times over a period of 6 months and initially it was pending but later on it got cleared. I did not ask for the exact date it was cleared but it was on feb1st 2008 that I found that it was cleared. But they did tell me the exact date on which the FBI name check was initiated. It was initiated on Aug 1st 2007 where are my 485 RD is June21st 2007.





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  • sujijag
    09-13 02:00 PM
    Common guys we need to make some thing better for EB3 folks.



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  • WeShallOvercome
    07-20 02:11 PM
    My H1 is expiring in Oct 2008 and my employer did not allow me to apply for EAD.
    As for your questions, If you don't have a valid H1 and no EAD, you are out of status. That can have an adverse effect on your I-485 if such period exceeds 180 days.

    about the 90-day thing, USCIS used to allow you to walk into a local office and get an interim EAD if your EAD application is pending for 90 days or more, but they seem to have discontinued that practice. Moreover, it will take much longer than 90 days now to get an EAD.

    You can apply EAD yourself but you need the I-485 receipt notice for that and I'm sure such employer won't give that to you either.





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  • ruchigup
    08-22 04:17 PM
    Why do u need them for gc ? Your 485 is already pending.
    Right now Baker McKenzie represent my I-485 case. After I am no longer with my current employer, I need to file G-28 to change my attorney representation.



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  • roseball
    05-14 01:34 PM
    H-1B is approved from Oct/1/2009. Currently I should be on L-1B. As per this article, I think I can travel without jeopardizing my future status. They call it the 'Hernandez letter'. Is this true?

    http://www.murthy.com/news/n_cosapp.html

    Thanks..

    Yes, its true. COS to H1 is not active till Oct 1st, 2009. Which means you are still on L-1B till Sep 30th, 2009. You can travel and come back to US as long as you are coming back on the same visa status you applied a COS petition from to change to H-1B, meaning re-entering on L-1B only. You can't re-enter on say a B1 visa and expect your status to be changed to H-1B on Oct 1st. Your COS petition was applied for L-1B to H-1B, so you should be on a valid L-1B status on Oct 1st for your status to be changed to H-1B. Since you are planning to come back on L-1B visa, you should be good to go. If you return on a different status, you will have to file another COS petition to change to H-1B by appending the already approved H1 petition so you wont be counted again agaisnt the H1 quota.

    However, like its mentioned in the Murthy's article you quoted, the Hernandez letter is just a response to a set of questions that were asked and not a law/memo. So incase in future if this causes some doubts on your status, you can just use that letter to defend your situation but it will be upto USCIS to make the final decision. Hope this helps.





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  • r2i2009
    09-22 05:01 PM
    Well said guys.....I do not know why this thing hangs around me with me having EAD. EAD is just like GC with some restrictions. Why should I worry?

    Keep running life as usual. Just think people at the back of you?





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  • dollar500
    04-10 06:23 PM
    Moonlighting will be acceptable easily as long as it's on the code internist. Problem is some fellowships are so demanding that you wont be able to moonlight as an internist. If you can figure this out smoothly and yr employer agrees nothing is better. Good thought.


    HI I am a physician (hospitalist) whose labor was under the catagory 'Internist' job code. The fellowship I am considering is open only to internist. I am also planning to moonlight as an internist while in fellowship. Would it be acceptable from the I485 point of view? Incidentally my I140 was approved more the 180 days ago.





    styrum
    11-10 04:44 PM
    Thanks folks for all the replies. I got to know finally that the employer can setup the LC to provide for any relocation. It looks like my employer usually does that so that the employees does not loose out in a relocation scenario.

    Thanks for all the inputs

    Please somebody clarify how exactly this is done with PERM. If it's a consulting company, should all advertisement, PWD and Job Order be done in the location of the main office? The job location indicated on the PERM should also then be the main office, but the job description must mention that projects may be located all over US? There is really no place on the PERM form for "alternate" location. Where is that exception for consulting companies mentioned? Can somebody please clarify?





    fullerene
    08-13 11:14 AM
    From my notice the processing date is meaningless at TSC because the dates are mostly the processing windows. For example, I140 was Jan 13 in July notice, which was 6 months behind. If you take a look on AP and EAD, they were just 3 months behind.

    It turns out to me that processing date is the date that you are entitled to make a phone call to request your status. You may be lucky to have your EAD in 1 or 2 months. But if you do not have it in three months, you can make a call to request a reason they can not deny your request. But if your date is later than the processing date, they may turn down your request or ask you to wait.

    That's it!



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